Question / help: Dennis Brown - Say What You Say 12" disco mix?

[TJ]

Apologize if this should have been posted under the current "Great 12-inchers" topic... but anyway, does anyone know for sure if the 12" vinyl version (**see below**), is a "true" DISCO version that mixes right in to the DJ version, as compared to the same [?] "extended version" that is available on the recent VP CD reissue of Visions of Dennis Brown - see: [cover=7856,2741]

**VINYL VERSION: Dennis Brown - Say What You Say (Extended Mix) / ? - This Girl Of Mine (Extended Mix) (ORIGINAL PRESS) Joe Gibbs 1979...**

Reason I ask is that the "extended version" on the re-issued Visions CD, *in my opinion*, is just two tunes immediately back-to-back and is not a 'true' disco mix. Am I making sense? I know you all know where I'm coming from on this... I mean we can ALL *digitally make* different "extended versions" of tunes we may have in our collections (using MP3's and/or WAV files) with readily avaialble music software... Of course, for our own personal enjoyment !!

BUT, that's not the real deal (aka. vinyl), so to speak.

Anyway, thoughts? opinions?

[Version Control]

I'm not sure what you mean but I have the original JA version of the Joe Gibbs 12" and one that has a slightly different label claiming to be 'Made in USA'.

Musically they're both the same. On Side A you have Dennis's vocal followed by the dub. On Side B there is U-Brown's version titled 'Funny Money' that has some of Dennis's vocals remaining and is also followed by a dub. But this one sounds more like two 7" cuts put together.

I haven't got the Visions CD to be able to tell whether what's on there matches the 12" but most genuine Discomixes have a vocal and a dub or DJ version welded onto it as the second half. Some people want a smooth transition in the middle whereas others prefer the latter part to announce itself by noticably kicking in. Neither way is right or wrong.

But if the Visions CD has a vocal followed directly by the DJ version then I can confirm that this does not happen on the original 12".

VC

[TJ]

Thanks VC,

I haven't got the Visions CD to be able to tell whether what's on there matches the 12" but most genuine Discomixes have a vocal and a dub or DJ version welded onto it as the second half. Some people want a smooth transition in the middle whereas others prefer the latter part to announce itself by noticably kicking in. Neither way is right or wrong. VC

Even though I was maybe not as clear as I could've been, you answered my question. On the Visions CD, that tune is track #10 (Say What You Say / Money Honey) and after about 2:12 into Dennis' vocal, there's about a 1-2 second break... But, it's funny, the more I listen to it the transition is very slight. But, I guess I'm one who just prefers the smoooth - *seamless if you will* - transition. I didn't mean to infer one was right or wrong. Sounds like the vinyl 12" is the smoother version.

Thanks again!

TJ

[Dougie]

I have the Visions LP (vynil) but can't find it right now and I also have the 12 inch record (Joe Gibbs US press, 1979).

The 12 inch in my opinion is not a "TRUE DISCO MIX". When I think of Disco Mix I think of a 12" record with the vocal at the beginning of the record immediately followed by the DJ cut mixed in smoothly or or 1 track where the singer drops out and the DJ comes in.

The 12 inch I have has the vocal mixed into a dub version on one side and a DJ cut with a dub version mixed in on the other side.