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Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:35 pm
by kalcidis
Yeah, never thought of it as a UK production. Was more thinking that it was a staple on UK sounds such as Coxsone Outernational, Jungleman HiFi and Sterograph.
Who was the vocalist?
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:31 pm
by swaby974
shake wrote:Digikiller wrote :"the Alton tune is a long story, might also come out eventually...
would love to hear that story....(the short version maybe!)......
Here's the very short story:
In 1972, when the Hookim brothers opened the Channel One Studio ,they initiated a promotion(' Try it before paying!') to compete Randy's,Federal or Dynamic.
Bunny Lee was the first to test it (with Delroy Wilson's "Can I Change My mind").Phil Pratt was also one of the first producers to get a free session (Gregory isaacs "All I Have Is Love").
Despite the fact that the recording equipments were new, the sound quality was bad (Sid Bucknor was the first sound engineer).A whole Alton Ellis album was set aside except 2 songs("Tell Me" & "I Dig You Baby") in dubplate format for UK.
(From Natty Dread Mag n°21)
Dubplate From Channel One :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIYItif8l9g
Hugh Mundell "Live In Love" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oStC8H7FkY
(In "Sound Business" ,Jah Shaka played it).
Dillinger "African People" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAelO6fG3as
Jacob Miller "Each One Teach One Dub" at 2"40 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFSNCh84ask
Vp has released "Mighty Diamonds Reggae Anthology: Pass The Knowledge " with severals dubplates. For me,"I Want To Know " and "Swell Headed " are in their top 10 tunes.
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:51 pm
by shake
swaby974 wrote:shake wrote :Digikiller wrote :"the Alton tune is a long story, might also come out eventually...
would love to hear that story....(the short version maybe!)......
Here's the very short story:
In 1972, when the Hookim brothers opened the Channel One Studio ,they initiated a promotion(' Try it before paying!') to compete Randy's,Federal or Dynamic.
Bunny Lee was the first to test it (with Delroy Wilson's "Can I Change My mind").Phil Pratt was also one of the first producers to get a free session (Gregory isaacs "All I Have Is Love").
Despite the fact that the recording equipments were new, the sound quality was bad (Sid Bucknor was the first sound engineer).A whole Alton Ellis album was set aside except 2 songs("Tell Me" & "I Dig You Baby") in dubplate format for UK.
(From Natty Dread Mag n°21)
Dubplate From Channel One :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIYItif8l9g
Hugh Mundell "Live In Love" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oStC8H7FkY
(In "Sound Business" ,Jah Shaka played it).
Dillinger "African People" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAelO6fG3as
Jacob Miller "Each One Teach One Dub" at 2"40 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFSNCh84ask
Vp has released "Mighty Diamonds Reggae Anthology: Pass The Knowledge " with severals dubplates. For me,"I Want To Know " and "Swell Headed " are in their top 10 tunes.
Thanks swaby974..... the combination of Alton's sweet vocal over that heavy Channel One riddim is a killa! Prime material for a digikiller reissue..........I wonder how many more of these tunes are hiding on old master tapes?
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:55 pm
by Vinnie
i forgot to mention bob marleys african herbsman
the dubplate has a different riddim... heavyweight
anyone heard that?
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:17 pm
by Max
kalcidis wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNTUK2eAUdg
One of the absolute best dubplates I've heard in my life. In my opinion up there with other dubplate classics such Kunta Kinte (PS 7"), Conquering Lion (DKR 7") and Rocks & Mountains (DKR 10").
Come in DKR and make this one happen as well. Rootsiest UK sound vibe ever.
I'm trying to remember where I heard this tune. Could it be one of the extras with Jungleman from the Musically Mad docu?
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:41 am
by kalcidis
Max; Yes. Same session they drop Mer-Tel-Ler with Ini Kamoze. Heavy!
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:22 pm
by Max
kalcidis wrote:Max; Yes. Same session they drop Mer-Tel-Ler with Ini Kamoze. Heavy!
Thanks Jocke, I knew that you'd know! Heavy indeed.
I'm wondering about something. Back in the day, say the pre-digi era, was it nearly as common for different sounds to have dubplate cuts of the same tunes as it is today? I think no, as I can't think of any examples, but I don't feel entirely confident. Can you think of tunes that different old time sounds had dubplate cuts of? My impression is that dubplates used to be more "special" than they are today.
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:14 am
by NinoNorrland
Who's the singer on Water In The Well? Sounds like Albert Griffiths
Re: Dubplates From Good Old Days
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:22 am
by Mick Sleeper
"Vibrate On" is definitely a more modern UK remix (the sirens give it away). Also, who makes a dub plate that's only 2 minutes long?