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Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:29 pm
by Rootsman
Hi Leggo,

I am not aware of any full album collaborations although there are a couple of version sides of Pablo on the Derrick Harriet "Riding the Roots Chariot" on Pressure Sounds.

Derrick Harriet was using Augustus Pablo on the version sides on some of U Roy and Big Youth 7" singles back in late 1975 & 1976.

Although Augustus Pablo did record "Bells of Death" and "Bedroom Mazurka" for Derrick Harriet in 1973.

Dave

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:44 am
by hueblo
so does that mean that the "Undertaker" by derrik harriott was not an all dub album?

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:57 am
by wareika
Hueblo, The Undertaker is a vocal sety from memory.

wareika

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:12 pm
by Ron
Soul Revolution Part 2 was one of the first dub/instrumental albums, I think. (1971)

http://www.smokeyroom.net/albums/soulre ... npart2.htm

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:51 pm
by leggo rocker
Soul Revolution and Soul Revolution Part 2 are still missing from my collection. I would so like to change that but I only ever see poor copies at high prices

:(

So can we attribute dub to Perry? Or to Tubby as is so often assumed?

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:06 pm
by Lion
The Trojan version are still in the shops.
The original albums i have seen where in poor&dirty condition

Lion

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:41 pm
by leggo rocker
Trojan pressings I have seen. But I have bought some of these trojan Upsetter re's and they have terrible sound!

Are the original pressings so bad too?

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:59 pm
by wareika
The Soul Revo part II is an instrumental LP. Does not count as dub. I had the opportunity to listen it and no dub business.

Who invented dub? Hard to say, but IMHO this is not a one man affair. It starts in the late 60's with the version sides, and little by little dub appeared as they remixed the instrumentals. Dub appeared more or less in 73. People like King Tubby and Errol Thompson were very important for this maturation. Lee Perry, didn't took part IMHO cause he was more a producer than an engeneer.


wareika

PS: Lion and Leggo Rockers, there are good pressing of the "Soul Rebel" (on Upsetter Jam) andd "Soul Revo Part II" (the vocal set on Maroon). My copies sound great.

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:17 pm
by leggo rocker
Thanks Wareika. Given the prices crappy originals are fetching I'll go out and score some repressings of those two.

Can you tell me the record numbers and matrix of your copies so I can be sure to get the right thing. If you can manage pics or link me to the correct pressings somewhere I'd be so grateful.

Re: Im new... Anyone know what was the first dub album?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:44 pm
by capp
Undertaker is partly vocal, partly instrumental. A typical Trojan release of the period (up-tempo reggae). Certainly not a dub album.