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You must consider that many people earning an average amount of money and who are in love with music download mp3's but on the other hand spend almost everything in music.

I shall speak here for myself, and i'm sure there are others : I had already downloaded most of the records I ever bought, and i bought everything I could afford, and maybe wouldn't have otherwise.

I wouldn't be surprised if the mp3 format, in the end, makes music sell.

Pluie.

Can people with high speed internet connections and time to download files REALLY be all that poor?
What is poor?
Seems to me that poor people wouldn't have the resources to download files. Guess it all depends on your definition.

Provocative thought #1 :
If downloads would kill a specialist label then the label should make its entire catalogue available to download for a share money to 'cash in' and survive.
Provocative thought #2 & personal note : I hate downloads.

This is the blood&fire downloadsite.
www.boomkat.com/promotion.cfm?id=36

Lion

Thanks Pluie, between people who answered, you seem to be the first to understand what I try to explain. I said poor to exagerate, some people spend all what they can and download what they can't afford (I do too), That's what i'm repeating since the begining. English is not my native language so please make an effort to understand, I can't be as specific as I would like to be, there are nuances in what I said.

"If downloads would kill a specialist label then the label should make its entire catalogue available to download for a share money to 'cash in' and survive."

It must be ironic but I'm sorry, i don't get your point.

And to the guy who was saying Lion & I were little riches : yes, i have no problem with cash, and so what ? I don't steal my money, work too much and buy what I can with what I earn, i've no problem with it. I'm just advocating people accused here of being thiefs.

And yes you can have access to high speed internet AND live under the poverty threshold.

" This is the blood&fire downloadsite.
www.boomkat.com/promotion.cfm?id=36 "
Thanx !
I will add that most of the Makasound catalogue is available for 10€ on CD on their site and in french shops (if they are honest).
http://www.makasound.com/operation-spec ... n-speciale

For non french speaker, anyone who needs a translation in english welcome.

" Can people with high speed internet connections and time to download files REALLY be all that poor? "

One LP in my country cost 1 month of internet.Will u buy the lp or download 20 LP ??

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I'm not talking about the price of an LP.

I'm talking about the use of the word "poor".
When I grew up I did not have TV because we could not afford it. I had few clothes, etc. Two pairs of pants and three shirts.
I still wouldn't say we were poor. I ABSOLUTELY would not say that people spending money on computers, DSL, etc. are "poor".
I think that word is being thrown around a lot and it's disrespectful to people who are really struggling just to feed their kids or selves. When you're actually living hand-to-mouth you could care less about obscure reggae LPs going for outrageous prices.
Music is great. However, it's ridiculous to fool yourselves into believing you "have to" or "must" download music since the funds aren't there. You choose to because you like the music.

I think the problem is how much people d/l,with high speed its just too quick and easy .
If you make a choice because of monetary reasons ,ie:one lp cost=1 month of net,then you should only d/l one lp ,cd a month.Thats fair i believe.The rest is stealing.I've done my share of d/l years ago ,and i fully realize i stole a lot of music,and i dont have the heart to do it anymore.I am not judging but its the way i see it.Peace

I'll re-phrase what I said in an earlier thread, just to expose my case.
Here in Chile (South America) the only reggae music that can be found at the Stores is Bob Marley's, how fair is that? of course i can download music and pay for it, but i don't even have a credit card or a bank account to do it.
I still consider a contribution to the artists just to listen to their music, a few artists have visited our country thru the effort of small local reggae-loving producers, and i can guarantee that people have attended their shows only because they have downloaded their music from somewhere. In the last ten years, the musicians that have played here are the following:
Skatalites, Kymani, Wailers Band, Steel Pulse, Mad Professor, please count them, five bands in 10 years, that's it, and NO album of any of these bands have been released here, and shows were sold out, believe it or not.
I'm sure in the STates or Europe you have Reggae shows every weekend. As i said before, if i see an original album at the store, i buy it, but downloading it is the only way here. Let me tell you that I am not poor but I'm far away from being rich, I have internet where I work but not at home.

One last comment:
Here one CD costs $10.000 (and if it is imported from the States costs around $15.000). With the same amount of money I can buy food for, let's not say a month, but 20 days.

Bless

Its unfortunate that in a country like Chile you may have little or no access to even be able to support the purchase of records or cd`s, regardless even of finances, but, the www and p2p filesharing is not just given to people in such a situation, and i would suggest the current music business problems are not due to the non sale of product, or filesharing from such countries, or its people. The problem will lay with those in more affluent contries where it was once the record labels and producers areas of sale, which, due to the global access of p2p, is having a detremental effect to the business.

Poverty (an agreeabley big word to use), or any other individuals position or circumstance is not a justifaction of right to be able to download the works of others for nothing, p2p filesharing is not filterable to only those in such poorer situations. If you believe downloading was helping the music business and record sales WHY do you think the whole industry is suffering ?