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Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:39 pm
by leggo rocker
Vinyl is also still strong in dance music area (house, garage etc) - but it's mainly DJs and wannadj's buying it. The general listening public, once again, just download it for free...
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:52 pm
by Red Eyes
6anbatte wrote:Red Eyes wrote :...vinyl in the foreign reggae market is strictly for nostalgia purposes.
As there appear to be a lot of young Roots Archive users buying vinyl I don't see that as being true.
You don't have to be old to be nostalgic, I think. I myself am a living example of this. I 've always mainly loved music (and pop culture in general) that was made before I was born.
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:05 pm
by 6anbatte
Red Eyes wrote:You don't have to be old to be nostalgic, I think.
*Nostalgia - a wistful desire to return in thought or in fact to a former time in one's life.....*
I would say if you are buying an album from, say, 1976 for it to be seen as a nostalgic purchase you would have to have experienced it back then and, consequently, you'd have to be in your late 40s. So fairly young!
That's my understanding of it, but obviously I am willing to stand corrected.
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:35 pm
by Litelet
The vinyl in its original format is truly a link to the foundations, I agree with Rodigan. Its like a cultural connection between the 70's and nowadays much different reggae-dancehall. *Nostalgy*, maybe there is some, thinking of the "golden era", when reggae was so true and so *one*. But I dont see anything bad in that.
The fact, maybe, is that nowadays, reggae is no more spread through Sound Systems and Selectas, but directly to the listeners, in foreign countries. As it happened in Jamaica in late 60's when they started to press and sell vinyls to people directly and not only for Sound Systems.
Turntables are not so common out of specialists, and this change of format is maybe the start of a new era where the people discover and choose theirself their stuff. I just suggest, have no real idea.
But if that's true... That would be sad for the artists, if, as written, they get their money from cutting dubplates for Sounds and Selectas...
guidance
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:15 pm
by Maxi Trojan
I suppose the Dubplate is still exclusive, it's just digital, so a soundman will still pay for that exclusive promotion, it just isn't physically a dubplate. The artist doesn't lose out.
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:47 pm
by wareika
I just tread an article in Le Monde few days ago. The point was about the death of vynil and especially regarding dance music. They gave big names (from house, electro and techno music) that gave up with vynil. There is a simple reason: vynil was only for promotion purpose (played out by djs). Labels pressed less than 1 000 copies and a good proportion was given to djs. Now they simply send a wav file (not MP3) and the dj just play it out like that.
More, big djs turned into computeres instead of turntable about 1 year ago. I witness this with a famous French dj I saw one year ago in Barcelona. The main reason (from the dj point of view) is that you can mix two tunes you couldn't with vynil (ie: with software that reduce speed without changing tone) and it's better for your back (don't have to carry tons of vynils).
Anyway, with crude at a little less than $100, vynil death is just a question of time...
wareika
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:15 pm
by leggo rocker
wareika wrote:
Anyway, with crude at a little less than $100, vynil death is just a question of time...
wareika
That's given me an idea of what we could do with the millions of Val Doonican, Barry Manilow and Sound Of Music records hanging around for ever in all the English Charity (thrift) shops.
We could melt them all down and recycle them as reggae re-presses!
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:23 pm
by staas
good idea, that's similar to what they do in jamaica now, except instead of barry manilow into reissues, they turn killer roots albums that nobody wants anymore and melt them into unlistenable, warped/skipping bashment singles

Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:24 pm
by leggo rocker
staas wrote:good idea, that's similar to what they do in jamaica now, except instead of barry manilow into reissues, they turn killer roots albums that nobody wants anymore and melt them into unlistenable, warped/skipping bashment singles
You just ruined my day.
I *really* hope you are kidding!
Re: is vinyl dead in Jamaica?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:28 pm
by staas
nope! and the worst thing is that, you're not supposed to recycle 7"s because theirs not enough vinyl because the stuff with the paper pressed in is unusable, but they just throw in the whole 7" paper and all
this is why dancehall records are often so badly pressed