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Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:13 pm
by kukuman
stepping razor wrote:kukuman - my ears.compressed, compressed.
Its time to ditch the mp3s and ipoddies (boogleggers) and get back to the roots of the roots music. telling a sound engineer his job.
peace
There's no way any legitimate label would put out anything sourced from MP3s. Perhaps you mean audio *level* compression?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_level_compression
I've seen you bash MP3s in a few threads here. A properly encoded MP3 is indistinguishable from the vinyl or CD it came from. This has been proven in double-blind studies, which you can perform yourself with [ABX software](
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/ind ... entry74066).
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:53 pm
by stepping razor
Yet more digital software.Whats wrong with analogue and vinyl then?
peace
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:41 am
by jahganja7
stepping razor wrote:
With all your techno Jahgone perhaps you should learn about analogue before you remix the original to suit your ears.
i wasnt asking about remixing anything myself Razor, read the original post star...
+ why always on the offensive Razer? let that AGGRO energy go elsewhere PLEASE!
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:46 am
by kukuman
stepping razor wrote:Yet more digital software.Whats wrong with analogue and vinyl then?
peace
There's nothing wrong with it. It just suffers from the limitations of physical media. That is, there's only a fixed supply of it, so if you weren't lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time to get the original, you have to pay wads of cash for it. And if you don't have wads of cash for it... tough.
If you dismiss ABX tests just because they're software, well, clearly you're part of the Luddite faction of reggae fans. How are you posting these messages? Do you send them by carrier pigeon to a friend with a computer?
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:12 am
by stepping razor
You edited a link to more digital software.
Now the edits start.
For one thing im talking about making music.If you start digital and then proceed digital it loses sound quality each time you record it.
Also it aint about digital its about how you set your levels and if you dont do that from the start you will be messing about in techno world cos your not a sound engineer.
It is IMO and perhaps you should open up your minds to the first part of sound engineering and then you would not need all these expensive gadets cos you could have bought the original record.
There are a lot of good reissues and represses but you need to know what are the real ones from the fakes.
Soundman ears again.
peace
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:52 am
by kukuman
stepping razor wrote:For one thing im talking about making music.If you start digital and then proceed digital it loses sound quality each time you record it.
Not if you use lossless formats in every step.
stepping razor wrote:Also it aint about digital its about how you set your levels and if you dont do that from the start you will be messing about in techno world cos your not a sound engineer.
For the record I'm completely against audio level compression which is what I think you're talking about here. It destroys the dynamic range of the recording.
stepping razor wrote:It is IMO and perhaps you should open up your minds to the first part of sound engineering and then you would not need all these expensive gadets cos you could have bought the original record.
No, in many cases we couldn't have bought the original record. There's no way I could afford to buy even half of the more obscure albums in my MP3 collection. There was no way I could have bought them when they came out either, because I was born in the wrong place (US Pacific Northwest) at the wrong time (1985).
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:07 am
by stepping razor
I dont like digital. Compression can be analogue or digital but now its all one thing digital.
I hear a old reggae tune digitally remastered and digitally compressed its sounds like a different version.
W in the UK were poor and bought records rather than today they spend loads and loads on computer stuff you will fill me in im sure with £200 for some software rather than using hands on a bass or keyboard got down the second hand shop for $20 USD.
It has always been a skill to find bargins and still is today not every reggae tune is on ipossies and mp3s only 40% of it has been put on cds and the coputer system.
Thats just LPs wait till you get the mind field of 7" and 12" inches.oh i forgot its all one system called ipoddies so you wont know that it aint from a LP.
peace
peace
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:34 pm
by stepping razor
Its the Analogue Anti- Piracy Device.Boogleggers a Gwan.
peace
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:33 am
by bullit
Surely if you can record vinyl direct to flac (as mentioned) which doesnt lose any of the rates, youd lose no quality? unless your sound input cant take the frequencies.
Re: Thoughts on Vinyl to MP3, etc...
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:42 am
by kukuman
No, you wouldn't lose any noticeable quality. Any perceived quality degradation is purely psychological, similar to the placebo effect.