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Check the arkology 3cd collection by Lee Perry. One o the cds contains 4 or 5 versions of the police n thieves, including one that has Junior Murvin singing "gIVE A THIEF A LONG ROPE, N THEN WE CATCH HIM".Great reggae

how bout "soldier and police war" jah lion on arkology.

sean wrote:Check the arkology 3cd collection by Lee Perry. One o the cds contains 4 or 5 versions of the police n thieves, including one that has Junior Murvin singing "gIVE A THIEF A LONG ROPE, N THEN WE CATCH HIM".Great reggae

Jr. Murvin singing "Bad Weed" on the "P&T" riddim....

How about the extended 12" digi version by Jammys on Live & Love? Listen here:

http://space.geocities.jp/punk_zamurai_ ... dthief.mp3

jumbo wrote:since to extend means to increase length.. it bassicly means a longer version.

At risk to introduce some confusion, "extended" is very often used only for "full lenght" mix.
Check here :
http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1106609 ... oduct.html

Interestingly, it's worth noting that the RRCD 57 re-issue of Police & Thieves has extended (= "full lenght") mixes of all the tracks, while on the original LP and on the other CD re-issue (the one with bonus tracks) the songs were drastically edited (= shortened) while Police & Thieves on the RRCD 57 release has a mix different from all other versions, and Tedious is 4'44" long (without the dub part that was placed at some point on the original Island LP) so the RRCD 57 CD contains many portions of the songs never heard before.

There remain some questions about the soon to be released 2 CD set, if it will contain the "full lenght" versions of the tracks, notably Tedious Dub and also Grumblin' Dub, which I always found a little short in time (maybe that one was edited for the 7" format).

N.

there is a 12" version with a cracking dub mix....if you still require info I will dig it out and send the record code and number etc,,,,but I doubt if you will find it on the computer searches/

Thanks Nicholas - you've made an old man very happy.

Years ago I tried to convince the whole disbelieving B&F Board (including our esteemed Ron!) that 'Tedious' on RRCD57 was a completely different mix (including vocal vs dub elements) to the original LP.

But I couldn't post sound files to prove it, and it's taken until now to find someone who has the same ears!

On the general point, I always think 'full-length' is the original version of a song that was subsequently edited for a 7" release. 'Extended mix', on the other hand, would be a 3-4min track made longer to fill out a 12" single.

About "Police And Thieves" CD differencies -

The RRCD 57 CD has some longer tracks than the CD w/bonus tracks (which seems to be the same as the LP version, apart from the bonus tracks, of course):

Police And Thieves itself - about 15 seconds longer
Solomon and Rescue Jah Children - a whole minute longer each!
Tedious, on the other hand, is about 15 seconds shorter

I haven´t compared the mixes, but I suppose Nicholas is right about that!

jeffy wrote:
"there is a 12" version with a cracking dub mix"

Did you find it yet? I guess it doesn't exist... unless you're referring to "Bad Weed"

I'm interested to know what is the original track of the version called "Predictions Dub".