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Sadly I have to go with davek, that "Roast Fish...." was his last "great" album.
After that there were some "good"-albums like "Battle of the Armagideon" but nothing to compare with the old gems.

Lost Shoe wrote:Sadly I have to go with davek, that "Roast Fish...." was his last "great" album.
After that there were some "good"-albums like "Battle of the Armagideon" but nothing to compare with the old gems.

Heh, I only just realized now that 'Return Of The Super Ape' came before 'Fish'...

Roots Archives says 1978 for "Roast Fish", and 1977 for "Return of the Super Ape".

Steve Katz dates both albums 1978.

Gary Simons says 1978 for "Return of Super Ape", and 1976 for "Roast Fish".

Simons must be wrong for "Roast Fish", which was issued in 1978, I'm almost sure.

But how about "Return of Super Ape? 1977 or 1978?
My Jamaican Lion of Judah label says "Copyright and produced 1978".
Should be right, I guess.
Who knows for sure? And if both came out 1978, which was first?

"Roast Fish Collie Weed And Cornbread" released April 1978;
"Return Of The Super Ape" completed by July 1978.
According to David Katz "People Funny Boy" - read it, it´s superb!!

both albums done in 1978 for sure... but not sure which one was first.

Visitor wrote:both albums done in 1978 for sure... but not sure which one was first.

.......and of course there is "which was recorded first" versus "which was released first".

I have always surmised that "Roast Fish & Cornbread" came after "Return Of...." because it contains the sounds of things going south for Perry. Very dark and dense both lyrically and musically, it's almost like listening to two records at the same time. "Return Of...." is more optimistic sounding. Regardless of the sequencing, they are both truly great LPs. "Roast Fish..." is by far the Perry LP I play most (with "Blackboard Jungle" a close second). Clip clop.

"which was recorded first?"

the song called "Roast Fish & Cornbread" was recorded in 1976 and album version was mixed in the year 1978.

and

the song called "Return Of Super Ape" (aka OK Corral by U Roy) was recorded in 1970 and album version was mixed in the year 1978.

Visitor wrote:"which was recorded first?"

the song called "Roast Fish & Cornbread" was recorded in 1976 and album version was mixed in the year 1978.

and

the song called "Return Of Super Ape" (aka OK Corral by U Roy) was recorded in 1970 and album version was mixed in the year 1978.

Well that settles everything

Maybe the two projects were done over the same time period, and not sequentially. When you see films of him smoking, drinking, and mixing at the same time, you can be pretty sure he is good at multi-tasking!

From Tapir´s Reggae Discographies site:


"Reggae Charts, October 28, 1978

Albums
1. Burning Spear - Marcus Children - Spear pre
2. Vivian Jackson/Prophets - Beware Dub - Grove
3. Matumbi - Seven Seals - Harvest
4. Revolutionaries - Leggo Dub - Cash & Carry pre
5. Revolutionaries/Culture - Culture Dub - High Note pre
6. Prince Far I - Long Life - Front Line
7. Prod. by Gregory Isaacs - Slum Dub - Burning Sounds
8. Fred Locks - King Of Babylon - Revelation
9. Abyssinians - Arise - Front Line
10. Lee Perry - Return Of Super Ape - Black Ark

Supplied by Daddy Kool, 44 Hanway Street, London W.1."



Fits in with Return Of The Super Ape being completed by July...

I quite young and started listening reggae about 10 years ago in school. And at first I hated all the music made after 1985 (digital, nuh roots and stuff), but apparently then I changed my mind and now I can even find a nice track among tonns of modern bashy dancehall waste. The thing is, that some people claimed that reggae is dead in the begining of the 1970s, and there were a lot of them. They hated dub, they hated the deejays, they were saying reggae became primitive and dull etc
Sleng Teng, Oh my God, some old folks in 1985 probably got strokes from it, how they hated it! Probably at some age everything seems going bad, classic story. In russia there's a proverb bou old times "... when girls were prettier and trees taller".

I personaly don't like much the repentance album, but I think It's a great joke from scratch showing his understanding of the modern thing, it's just as my daddy would try to make a trance thing and grime rapping bout punnany and gangsters. Just Fun. Don't take it to serious, feel younger! )