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Without wealth people couldn't give charity. Without charity Buddhist monks (and many other types of monk) would not be able to withdraw from labour and dedicate their lives to spirituality.

In the Hindu system those that earn money are not committing sin in earning. The sin comes in the spending. And those that are born into money, or have money, are in this position because of good deeds done in past lives. If they then don't do the right thing with this wealth, they will suffer in their next life for wasting their good fortune.

Jah Glu wrote:oh alright..didnt know dat...

don't misunderstand me... nichiren buddhism is just a branch of buddhism.

daCENSOREDone wrote:about early days, some of these songs are killers...
peter tosh, we missed you as much as marley did

Indeed Peter Tosh did some killers back then and there are some gems on that album.

MightyZ

daCENSOREDone wrote:Jah Glu wrote :oh alright..didnt know dat...

don't misunderstand me... nichiren buddhism is just a branch of buddhism.

no no not at all! Enlightenment is cool!

it depends of your religion man! if you're protestant or jewish, it's not...[/quote]

)) Not a religious question. But a question of social responsibility and intelligence.

maybe you've missed some important point... roots reggae is related to rasta...

rasta and money you know... maybe you don't

but you should know if you call yourself ilion tafari

For me, Peter Tosh's post Wailers music is even more "rock" and far from JA sound than Marley's music. I really cant stand his sound, especially the guitar effects and I would never credit him in my definition of roots and really think he was apart of JA sound. He certainly had a tuff crew of musicians around, but his influence on them, to play the sound he wanted, gave something I feel very artificial. Hopefully he did some better music on WailNSoulM in 68-70, that I enjoy fully.

Its not to start a new polemic about him, or roots music or anything... But presenting Tosh as a symbol of the real reggae sound has really no more sense than saying Marley's music is the real roots music. I personnally dont miss Peter Tosh at all, as you seem not to miss Marley.

Both comments about Peter Tosh prior to yours were only commenting about his early music Litelet - back to the ska roots and early days of reggae - pre roots.

I certainly wouldn't present him as an icon of real roots music (and nobody has on this thread) - to be honest though I have heard little of his later stuff, only really the Legalise It album (it was the title track wasn't it? I haven't heard it since the early 80's!). I quite liked some of that stuff - but I can see where your rock comment comes in!

MightyZ

As per the definition of pop music earlier in the thread, almost all reggae ever recorded is pop and is extremely commercial, recust of the most popular songs, recycling of the most popular riddims, copycats, anything that sells gets recorded. As a matter of fact, reggae might well be the most commercially-minded ever.

So, I don't think you can say that Bob Marley going commercial is an argument against his music being reggae.

Alhazred wrote:As per the definition of pop music earlier in the thread, almost all reggae ever recorded is pop and is extremely commercial,

??? have you ever see yabby you, jah stitch at top of the pops? or in the charts?

maybe you're talking about all that poor music that was sold, made or recorded in the uk AFTER marley, yes this is extremely commercial and quite different of jamaican reggae (most of it)

Alhazred wrote:recust of the most popular songs, recycling of the most popular riddims, copycats, anything that sells gets recorded. As a matter of fact, reggae might well be the most commercially-minded ever.

if you're still talking about this uk targetted reggae I agree with you but remember that reggae is jamaican music... if some finnish guys play tarantella there's a chance they could miss something important.

Alhazred wrote:So, I don't think you can say that Bob Marley going commercial is an argument against his music being reggae.

to know if he is commercial or not is a useless question cos every record is made to be sold.
bob marley is part of popular music IT IS POP.