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Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:14 pm
by kukuman
leggo rocker wrote:But then, if the copyright owner of that work then decides to re-issue it on CD or vinyl - he might decide not to as it is already 'in the wild' as a free download.
The only way that this would make any rational sense is if it would cost them more to press the copies than the expected revenue. If this was the case, then they should look into digital distribution to keep costs down. I don't know about you guys, but if I had the chance to buy lossless legitimate copies of the super-rare out-of-print albums I've downloaded, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:44 pm
by ton1
Pedro wrote:
I DONT WANNA STOLE , BUT I DONT HAVE MONEY ,CAN U BUY SOME RECORDS FOR ME LEGGO?? WAITING FOR YOUR ANSERW
Sell your caps lock key and buy a CD :D

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:08 pm
by leggo rocker
I do agree with those that point some blame at the record companies. They've been too greedy too long. And then when the new era came along with MP3 they buried their heads in the sand and called the thought-police out. Now they are getting their financial backsides kicked and I think they deserve it.

Future music will come direct from the supplier - the artists - and that CAN'T be a bad thing. The artists are the key here, everyone else in the chain is just a type of parasite.

Hopefully the Internet will kill the fat cat record execs as it deliver the artists a way to connect with their audience directly regardless of where they are.

That, IMHO, is a very positive future for music.

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:57 pm
by Bill
Support your local record shops,they are a fast becoming extinct.

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:03 am
by Jah Chicken
"A decisive moment for the future of a civilised internet"... What a laughable statement.

Roots,
Jah Chicken

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:05 am
by kukuman
leggo rocker wrote:Hopefully the Internet will kill the fat cat record execs as it deliver the artists a way to connect with their audience directly regardless of where they are.

That, IMHO, is a very positive future for music.
I agree, it is a very good thing. However, the Internet lowers the barrier of entry to anyone with a delusion of musical talent and a software sequencer, and it makes looking for good new artists a matter of finding a needle in a haystack. There needs to be a more reliable way of finding new music than word of mouth.

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:14 am
by greg
who cares, i download free music all the time to see which artists i like the most, then i buy their albums, tell me how that hurts the artist.

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:42 am
by norseman
If its 60's,70's or 80's,get it where you can.Why should the Big Cats who practically stole the songs from the artists continue to reep a reward.During these times there was no such thing as royalties and even with the promise of % age of profits artists where still conned.Even today all re-press profits go to those who own the original recordings/stampers and not the artists who actually made them.
I personally collect vinyl and buy them when I can,but I do trade files of tracks that I can not get and likewise gladly give them.And will continue to do so.........................

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:02 am
by Jah Chicken
How do they intend to enforce this and what is pirated movies and music?

"French web users caught pirating movies or music could soon be thrown offline"

So, I'm imagining that this is simply a legal notion. I'm sure they realize that the difficulty resides in monitoring this behavior.. right? And what is 'pirating movies or music'? Any non-streaming media file? Streaming media as well? I'm curious.

Roots,
Jah Chicken

Re: The beginning of the end of illegal file sharing?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:20 am
by kukuman
Rootsman wrote:But what I do agree with and will not condone is file sharing of music that not available to purchase due to rarity or just never being reissued.
Not condoning something means you disagree with it... maybe you meant you wouldn't *condemn* it?
Jah Chicken wrote:So, I'm imagining that this is simply a legal notion. I'm sure they realize that the difficulty resides in monitoring this behavior.. right? And what is 'pirating movies or music'? Any non-streaming media file? Streaming media as well? I'm curious.
The way I understood it was that it's simply an agreement between the French media associations and major Internet companies. The Internet providers will now have a common policy for dealing with copyright complaints that's dictated by the media associations, and these associations will assist in reporting. It didn't seem like any sort of law or legal arrangement.