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I see, wikipedia knows it all, hm?

ok, so if a singer tries to imitate another singer who is present during the recording or at least involved in its production, who is decepted? certainly not the imitated singer? you, as a buyer, may feel deceived but nobody promised you a certain number of verses by the original singer

ice wrote:I see, wikipedia knows it all, hm?

ok, so if a singer tries to imitate another singer who is present during the recording or at least involved in its production, who is decepted? certainly not the imitated singer? you, as a buyer, may feel deceived but nobody promised you a certain number of verses by the original singer

Wikipedia and all other known sources for the english language would probably have just about the same interpretation of what fraud is.

If nothing else is said it would be implied by me the customer that he is singing it all = fraud.

If they said that "This a new artist "so and so" that does a perfect (hmm) imitation of the great GI and here they are together. Get this now!" That would be another thing. Still crap but at least truthful.


So you think Gregory sat there and watched some nobody steal his name and liked it? I have posted a link on page 1 for a google search for "dub splicers". Take a look at the message in this video below. Specially the last words at the end. Maybe this gives a feeling of how Gregory looked upon this problem. Is Dubmatix a keyboardist btw?

Dubplate or Dubfake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFI39oiJhNo

Dubmatix is a legitimate, award-winning producer and artist based in Toronto with a top notch reputation in the biz both in North America and in Europe. If this is indeed a fake, then he has been the victim of a fraud. I happen to think this does sound like a 'recent' Gregory (RIP) voicing with some EQ tweaks and editing apparent for sure but probably required for the track.

Dubmatix has worked with many artists that I am aware of (the real ones, not fake ones) in the past including Michael Rose, Alton Ellis and Sugar Minott to name a few and either running a session in person or by having the artist voice the riddim elswhere which I believe was the case here. If this is proven to be a 'fake Gregory' and Dubmatix was 'duped' then the blame should not lie with the producer who believed he was getting the track voiced by Gregory in good faith, but on whomever designed this fraud as it is most disrespectful to the artist and with Gregory's recent passing makes it all the more despicable. This is one of the continuing problems with reggae - too many f**king pirates!

island mc wrote:this does sound like a 'recent' Gregory (RIP) voicing with some EQ tweaks and editing apparent

ok, autotune coulda change voice, and you have some software to distort the voice to make it sound different from real

but there is no software or plugin that makes you sound like a next man and still real (not electronic type of distortion) lol and why them would do that? why make gregory sound like a talentless young blood?

I dont understand why so many cant face the fact that dubmatrix got tricked? them is just some white buoy who send money through web no matter how much hype dem get ina europe dem still foolish for bringin out a track like dat as a producer a would shame to do so. I would maybe buss out this track but would neva put my name next to it i woulda shame to do so.

It is fake!
Its propably the same guy who made this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFI39oiJhNo

Its not Dubmatix fault, its the person who did the scam and fooled them.

I am 100% sure that it is not Gregory singing, and that is really sad ofcorse.

Gregory did record dubplates this summer and here is one of them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlS4ckhx1uk

Sorry, i didnt see until now that someone else had linked to that fake Gregory dubplate earlier.

But ppl, it does not matter how many awards Dubmatix has won or with what artist they have recorded. The have been fooled. Ofcorse without knowing it.

Its really sad.

And as stated. This is not even close.
Gregory is Gregory. No matter in what shape and form, none can touch him. Not even close.

And now i got a reply from Dubmatix:

"Hi Christer

Thanks for your email. We're looking into it and right now - it looks like you might be correct. It's happened to a few people.
I'll touch base once I know more.
Dubmatix"

As said, its really sad for Dubmatix

Qrizter wrote:And now i got a reply from Dubmatix:
...

Thanks Qrizter. Please keep us informed of the outcome. He never answered my email about this matter.

I started this thread and if you look at page #1 you will se the Youtube link in there. I had seen some clips on Youtube this past summer about "dub splicers" and then forgotten about it. This track immediately made me think about it again.

Sad for Dubmatix if it's true but I don't hold no grudge against him. Dubmatix is not the problem in this mess. But Dubmatix is selling an album "featuring" Isaacs right after the mans death so he'll need to make some sort of official statement of course.

It has just been brought to my attention in the past few days that the recent recording I did with Gregory Isaacs is not Gregory, but rather someone that impersonated him and has done so to others out there. I would not, nor ever, release a fraudulent track.

I'm of coarse very disappointed, shocked and angry that it is not Gregory but rather a shyster, taking advantage of people, their hard earned money and good names. I also am upset for those of you who now have a copy of the CD or Album download that includes a track that is not by Gregory. I've worked with some of my favorite artists over the years including Sugar, Alton, Linval and more, and it's disheartening to think that someone would do this.
System Shakedown
(Released July 23rd in Europe and August 17th in Canada)
On our end we've been working hard to remove his name from the track. References on all existing websites under the dubmatix name have been removed, an updated CD cover and liner notes issued. Online retailers will also be making the correction as soon as possible. Future CD pressings will not include also not reference the name or track.

It's a very unfortunate situation, however there are 12 additional songs on the System Shakedown album with legit singers such as The Mighty Diamonds, Tippa Irie, Brother Culture, Dennis Alcapone, Jay Douglas, Ammoye, U Brown, Kulcha Ites and more that all worked hard, as did myself, and I wouldn't want their efforts to be diminished.

Now that I know for sure that it is not Gregory, it's important to set the record straight out of respect for Gregory's family , the fans and myself.
Respectfully
Dubmatix


Also - thanks to Dudikowski and Christer for emailing me about this. It took some time to come to terms with the possibility and then look into it but am glad to know now rather than years from now...

Dubmatix,

I think you have handled this "shituation" in the best possible manner. Big respect for that. I hate unsolved mysteries so I'm glad I can put this behind me now.

I'll check out the full album once it's updated.