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Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:20 pm
by ice
ok, I should explain my opinion a little bit more:

when I first wrote "The answer is easy: Reggae has no future" I was of course exaggarating...obviously there will always be bands recording music which will then be labelled (correctly or not) "reggae"...however, imho most of what is labelled as "Reggae" in these days has nothing to do with what Reggae originally stood for, "The Golden Era" is long passed and gone...what comes from so called Reggae artists in these days should not have the same name as what was recorded in its prime...and artists like the ones Mick mentioned should not be put on the same level like the guys I mentioned...just like there will most likely never be another Mozart, Bach or Strauss, there will be no other DEB, G.I., Marley or Tosh...of course you can say classic music is still composed by contemporary artists...in the end it all comes down to semantics

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:55 pm
by Rootts
"most of what is labelled as "Reggae" in these days has nothing to do with what Reggae originally stood for, "The Golden Era" is long passed and gone...what comes from so called Reggae artists in these days should not have the same name as what was recorded in its prime"

This is exactly what i meant too. I understand where Ice is coming from. The artist mentioned earlier claim to be "conscious roots" artist, but they are not. Thanks for trying, but we want roots and culture for our money.

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:50 am
by donstrumental
Hey Grampa's i don't understand where you guys are coming from by stating the obvious,these times may not be your "Golden Era" but it will be for someone else.

Whether there will be another Marley or Tosh,who knows,"time is longer than rope" your conscious tunes should have been teaching you this! ( i wasn't into Tosh anyway !)

Many of our "Greats" have passed but many are still here,Sly and Robbie, Flabba and Style Scott, Horace Andy, Johnny Clarke, Donavan Germain, Scientist and Jammys. If anyone could recreate the sound who better than these guys. Guess what guys! they're not interested in bringing back the sound of the good old days. Ask them and see for yourself !

Yes,technology has been responsible for the demise of the sound,but technology has also made it possible for me to listen to so many of those LP's i couldn't afford to buy with my paper round money,i don't even have to pay for it now, WOW !

Our lifetime is a blink in the eye of the creator and the "Golden Era" is still here for many of us.I suppose it depends on whether your glass is half full or half empty!

Unless you're doing something to keep it alive, stop talking negative nonsense and be proud that this forum gives you the right to be a part of the global phenomenon called REGGAE MUSIC.

Peace and Love

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:16 pm
by dan i
"Unless you're doing something to keep it alive, stop talking negative nonsense and be proud that this forum gives you the right to be a part of the global phenomenon called REGGAE MUSIC."

Well said donstrumental. There are clear differences between the foundation tunes of the 70s and 80s and those of today, but to dismiss everything modern as rubbish or not roots and culture is plainly nonsense. There are musicians and producers making amazing and varied music today (Manasseh, Dub Judah, Sankara Warriors, Slimmah Sound, Russ Disciple and many more), as well as singers delivering relevant and superb conscious lyrics. More power to them. It would be a sad day if all the attention went to the reissue market and collectors auctions.

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:13 pm
by Julian
I heard Snoop Dogg will do a Reggae Album. I was very suprised about the fact he wanna do a Roots Album not a Dancehall..Makes me a bit laugh. But I remember I was also the one who laughed when he heard Sinead O Connor want to do one. Until I heard it. Not bad, not like the Originals but not bad at all.:) :D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D (tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)(tu)

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:07 pm
by ras_gaks
Well said don, :)

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:35 pm
by dan i
Sinead O'Connor should have surprised no one really. She had been making dubwise records for years, with folks like Jah Wobble and On-U Sound. She has a real soulful quality to her voice, which i fear Snoop may lack.

lol

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:27 am
by Mick Sleeper
Rootts wrote:"most of what is labelled as "Reggae" in these days has nothing to do with what Reggae originally stood for, "The Golden Era" is long passed and gone...what comes from so called Reggae artists in these days should not have the same name as what was recorded in its prime"

This is exactly what i meant too. I understand where Ice is coming from. The artist mentioned earlier claim to be "conscious roots" artist, but they are not. Thanks for trying, but we want roots and culture for our money.
How can you make a ridiculous statement like that? *"The artist mentioned earlier claim to be 'conscious roots' artist, but they are not."* You think a tune like "Earth A Run Red" by Ritchie Spice or "Jah Bless Me" by Jah Cure aren't roots?

I mean, if you prefer the classic reggae sounds of the 1970s, fine, but at least admit your preference instead of claiming that modern reggae artists aren't genuine.

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:04 pm
by noogy
dan i wrote:"There are clear differences between the foundation tunes of the 70s and 80s and those of today, but to dismiss everything modern as rubbish or not roots and culture is plainly nonsense."
I can completely understand how people who listen to tunes from the 60's 70's and 80's can completely dismiss all the 90's+ reggae. I have heard very little 'modern' reggae, what I have heard has no appeal to me. I do not question that there may be quality to plenty of modern reggae, I just think that it requires a different taste - or at least some getting used to.

Re: Legends passing......future of reggae

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:42 pm
by ital kemar
i think a point a lot of people miss may be the fact that so many of the greats, and most memorable songs from the 70s/80s were sung by groups with immaculate harmonies (congos, wailing souls, culture, abbysinnians, heptones, maytones, israel vibration, gladiators etc) whereas nowadays its nearly always solo singers. just something for people to remember.