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Original press value post replica re-issue

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:02 pm
by vlad
With all these beautiful re-issues, beautifully replicated, what is the $ value of original presses, post replica release?

A quick example using The Diamonds' Gate of Zion 12" - a great example of great replica - would suggest original press goes down in $ value. Certainly true for Greensleeves albums & 12": same label re-releasing same stuff. Why pay more for used identical thing? (even the code bar is gone from some of these replicas)

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Off scope: re-issues that don't replicate at least the artwork.

RE-ISSUE people, looking fwd to see more of these replicas see the light of day:

> Yabby's RAM A DAM LP
> Ethiopians Engine 54 LP
> The Beverley's LP series, from Bob to Desmond to Toots
> Trojan must re-issue many of its original 60's/70's LP as replicas. Get the old label texture right, put the varnish coat on the cover. Make them impossible to differentiate from the original press!!! Make it perfect!

and many more...

Originals are totally overpriced. Scarcity drives demand, and drives prices up...Break that cycle, replicate, and run to the bank - making poor collectors happy, and originals owners wonder why they paid 500 $ for a record :) (I'd be one of them as well, but its OK - all part of the game called collecting)

Other styles - SOUL and most others - are leading the way. Time for reggae to catch up: REPLICA REPLICA REPLICA

Re: Original press value post replica re-issue

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:38 pm
by marcus66
Re-issue just don't get me excited as much as a original mint copy ,and bootlegs just p*** me off

Re: Original press value post replica re-issue

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:27 pm
by Lost Shoe
Why duplicate an original in every detail? Isn't it enough to reissue it for "poor" music lovers to get what they want - the music?
A counterfeit is still kinda rip off, never mind if it's made by the company or private.

So why destroy the fun for people collecting originals?
And this is true for everything worth collecting, not only for records.
When they duplicate records in every detail like matrix, texture of label and cover in a way you cannot tell the wrong from the right, collecting records will die. Hopefully this will never happen.

Re: Original press value post replica re-issue

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:36 pm
by vlad
Let me re-formulate:

Why re-issue the music with different artworks, labels etc.?

Doesn't it make sense to re-issue exactly as it was meant back then by the artists/producer?

Delighted with the Island re-issues. Even better vinyl/sound then the original presses. Same artworks, same labels. Perfect.

No problem in keeping a couple details different, such as matrix. But for the rest, stick with the original artistic intent.

Re: Original press value post replica re-issue

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:16 pm
by I-Lion Tafari
When I started collecting (originals) they didn`t cost more than re`s nowadays.
Checking prices on the web I´m sometimes shocked how cheap solid originals go for.
You have to be patient to hunt down a good record.
If you`re not check the web for some download.

Re: Original press value post replica re-issue

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:14 pm
by jayb
As a long time vinyl obsessive I like to seek out original presses - but the main reason - at least for the early ones is sound quality. The original tapes from which those were cut have often long since gone and dubbing from disc for the reissue doesn’t quite make it.

I don’t think that reissues of some early rarities reduces prices of originals but rather gives them the sort of publicity that may actually increase prices! Same goes for early stuff which is taken from the original tapes.

A case in point - Wackies dub LP’s - these were relatively cheap 15 years or so ago before reissued out of Germany. These days many are extremely expensive on the open market.

As for the mighty diamonds 12 “gates of zion” – I would agree that the reissue may take the price down of the original - but that’s not that old or rare and the reissue sound just fine