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Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:51 am
by Jozef root
I have recognized that songs in their dub versions
Can anyone help me with the missing songs ?

01 ) Barrington Levy – Winner
02) ?
03) Tony Tuff – Love light shining
04) Sugar Minott – Babylon
05) John Holt – Tribal war
06) ?
07) Sugar Minott- Show me that you love me
08) ?
09) ?
10) ?

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:45 pm
by Rootsman
Am familiar with The Revolutionaries mid seventies stuff.

Is this album from early eighties anygood.

saw it today.

Is it worth picking up.

Respect

Dave

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:59 am
by leggo rocker
Yeah Rootsman, you need this LP!

Please, I welcome the experts out there to correct any mistakes I make in this review:

I like Seventies Dub and am a big fan of the Revolutionaires Seventies sound.

Even though it is dated 1981, 'I came, I saw, I conquered' is really more like a late Seventies sound as it uses established Seventies riddims (from Channel One recordings I think?).

I find anything that's had the hand of Ernest Hoo Kim on it is worth the attention of your ears and this one is no exception.

There is some use of synth drums on one or two tracks but it's a very judicial dose. They do not ruin the sound. For me, on some LPs of the 79 - 81 era, the synth drums were used just like a new toy and I mean over-used!

It is good regular Revos stuff, good heavy and dominant bass accompanied by hard percussion. A great guitar sound and some vocals cutting through here and there.Lots of superb keyboards either as main riddim or dubbed in and out. As always, a good use of echo.

A skillfull mixdown inna righteous dub stylee.

Beware of the dreaded off-centre pressings though - like my J&L (re?) pressing (JJLP029)! This one only slightly off and doesn't seem to disturb the sound.

Anyone have it on Hitbound???


Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:50 pm
by wareika
This LP is NOT classic Revolutionary material but actually Roots Radics material recorded for labels like JJ, L&J, J&L, Hitbound and so on.

The riddims where recorded at the time Niney worked @ channel One and some of them (A3: I Hold The Handle riddim & A4: Secretly riddim) appeared in some classics LP from the early dancehall period. Lone Ranger's "M 16" LP use both of them as an exemple. I like the sound of Channel One prods from this period even if I do prefer by far the Junjo's sound the dominated the area.

The riddim are not the weack point regarding but the mixes for this dub set are IMHO boring. Simple reworking of the riddims and mainly (good) sound effects added...

You should listen to it before buying it.

The original press came out on JJ in 81.

wareika

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:15 pm
by leggo rocker
OK, I stand corrected, thanks Wareika!

Your knowledge and that of so many others here both astounds and humbles me!

But why is it widely known, and titled as Revos if it is Radics?

I agree to a point, it is a 'quiet' dub if you get my meaning, almost gentle, NOTHING like Leggo Dub or Joe Gibbs stuff like the African Dub series and also NOTHING like the Scientist and Radics sound from the similar period. So you could think that boring.

Depends on mood and preference!


Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:29 pm
by versionside
"I agree to a point, it is a 'quiet' dub if you get my meaning, almost gentle," - LR

This is the main reason I really like this lp, I've almost 'dubbed' ;-) this lp, 'meditation dub' because given the right setting, it can get almost trance like [mellow trance that is]. Yes, stiil I can see how some people might consider this trance description as another word for 'boring'.

imo, it's more like a 'peaceful' dub lp, I take a cdr of it to the mountains all the time, it fits in well with nature. So don't count on this dub lp to fire up the dance or make the gals shake it up. There are other dub lps for that ;-)

Like Leggo said, "Depends on mood and preference!"

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:40 pm
by leggo rocker
seen! Versionside.

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:28 pm
by wareika
Why Revo on the cov? Cause as they worked for the Hookim familly they are given the Revo name (whoever really played). But it is not the Classic Revo' from 74 for 78/79.

Actually I check the back cover and it's not really Roots Radics... More likely a line up close to Sly & Robbie's Taxi Band from this period...

About the "quiet" description, I fully agree. To makes things clear, even if I do prefer "classic" 75 to 78 dubs, I don't reject at all this kind of dub. Don't excpect I let go my copy of this set!!! I just feel that in the early 80's the dub was less a question of mix ability but more a question of good and strong riddims with some effects. Don't know if it's clear?


wareika

PS check the Fatman dub thread. Another exemple of reggae misscredit to push up sales.

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:58 pm
by D. Van Cann
One of them is on the "Truth & Rights" riddim originally studio one, that's a dub of Yellowman's "Step It Outta Babylon".

Re: Revolutionaries - I came I saw I conquered

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:27 am
by Gary Zebulun
Greetings,

Sammy Dread-Roadblock is also another channel one LP that is backed by Roots Radics.

One Love,

Gary Zebulun