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Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:42 am
by Matthew
Greetings!

I've been away for a while but am back for a moment and finally cataloging my roots collection.

Need some help in determining what era these records where pressed in.
I'm not looking for record date just pressing/re-issue dates.

I'm 99.9% sure that none of them are original press.
I'm guessing 1990's or 2000's but I'd like to know exactly if someone out there has that info.

*I've included the actual covers & label info* I own to hopefully help narrow it down.

Please, if not exact year at least whether they are 80's, 90's, or 2000's...

Thanks! :)

Johnny Osbourne - Truths And Rights
**Studio 1**
[cover=541,648]


Junior Reid - Original Foreign Mind
**Black Roots** *not* Harry J
[cover=7645,1114]


Junjo Presents A Live Session With Aces International
BLANK SLEEVE
**Volcano** *not* ACES or Greensleeves


Linval Thompson - Baby Father
**Thompson Sound** *not* Greensleeves
[cover=2656,3062]


Nicodemus - She Love It In The Morning
**Channel One/Hitbound**
[cover=2697,3114]


Sons Of Jah - Bankrupt Morality
**Natty Congo**
[cover=716,833]


Tappa Zukie - Living In The Ghetto
**Tappa** #WF543 *not* STARS
[cover=2542,2929]


Tapper Zukie - Blackman
BLACK & WHITE SLEEVE ART
**Tappa** *not* STARS


Tappa Zukie - Tappa Zukie International
**Tappa** *not* STARS


Toyan - How The West Was Won
BLACK & WHITE SLEEVE ART
**Volcano** *not* Greensleeves


Yabby You Meets Michael Prophet - Yabby You Meets Michael Prophet In Dub
[cover=2845,3290]

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:05 am
by jumbo
a lot of these have been repressed more than once.
form instance that johnny osbourne could be 80s 90s 2000s. for studio one most of the time you can determine the press by the look of the label.

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am
by Matthew
Yes Jumbo, the Osbourne is probably the tuffest.
At least we can rule out late 2000's on that one since they recently issued it with a different cover.

The rest are still a mystery...

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:28 am
by 6anbatte
Matthew wrote:Yes Jumbo, the Osbourne is probably the tuffest.
Even Rob Chapman's **["Downbeat Special"](http://www.downbeat-special.co.uk/books.html)** book only mentions the original issue and the 1992 Heartbeat CD.

Incidentally, he puts the original issue year as 1980 as opposed to 1979.

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:59 pm
by Nicholas
6anbatte wrote:Even Rob Chapman's "Downbeat Special" book only mentions the original issue and the 1992 Heartbeat CD.
That's just because the (Johnny Osbourne LP) Studio One presses are all the same, using an unique pair of stampers since (most probably) 1980. Later presses were not re-issues, but re-presses.

However, it's true that with later presses the stampers are used and tired. So early presses must sound better...

N.

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:03 am
by jumbo
nicholas is right, try and find the one with the big red one on yellow label, that is the original 1980 NY press, later repressed on the regular'1Studio' label and that small Studio one logo (same like the 'big red one' , but much smaller and transparrant)

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:13 am
by Matthew
The label I have is white but **not** like this :
[cover=7443,648]

It is just white with the 1 at the top and a microphone.

Distributed by :
Coxsone's Music City
Brooklyn, N.Y.

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:23 am
by Matthew
*update :*

Made some progress this evening! ;)

I removed a few that are actually being sold at Ernie B's as we speak...
Definitely can mark these as year 200X :

Phillip Frazer & Triston Palma - The Big Showdown

Sir Coxsone Sound - King Of The Dub Rock

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:19 am
by 6anbatte
Nicholas wrote:6anbatte wrote :Even Rob Chapman's "Downbeat Special" book only mentions the original issue and the 1992 Heartbeat CD.

That's just because the (Johnny Osbourne LP) Studio One presses are all the same, using an unique pair of stampers since (most probably) 1980. Later presses were not re-issues, but re-presses.

However, it's true that with later presses the stampers are used and tired. So early presses must sound better...

N.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.

Re: Press/Re-Press Help...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:26 am
by 6anbatte
jumbo wrote:......try and find the one with the big red one on yellow label, that is the original 1980 NY press......
I am pleased you said that as I did find one back in April. I assumed it was an original, but it is nice to have it verified.