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Bless, i will buy a Turntable that only plays 33 & 45 rpm. Is this enough for reggae vinyls? ( old to new productions) or i need something more?

i ask becouse i dont know too much about vinyls,


blesssss

that's enough

I've just started collecting Jamaican 78rpms.... wish my Technics could play 'em!

Found that there's a £300 plus conversion so that they will, or you can record at 33 and a third and then use pitch adjust when editing the .wav file to pitch it correctly. I wouldn't want to put one past my stylus, but found out that there is a Stanton 78rpm stylus just for this reason...

@ BMD

You don't need to spend big money to digitize a 78 RPM record.

Simply play the 78 RPM record from your regular turntable set on 45 RPM into WAV editing software.

The way you change the pitch is by changing the sample input rate, which is normally set at 44,100 to a value of 25,442. You can then easily re-sample it up to 44,100 (red book standard)to burn on a CD.

The wonderful thing about digital is that it's all mathematical:

44,100 x 45 / 78 = 25,442

Hope this helps

davek wrote:@ BMD

Simply play the 78 RPM record from your regular turntable set on 45 RPM.......

Hi Dave

Are you sure about playing 78s with a standard stylus?

If I remember rightly when I had a deck that played 78s the cartridge had the facility to swivel and use a stylus that was specifically designed for 78s.
It could be my old memory playing me up so I am happy to stand corrected, of course.

Agree with 6anbatte about different styluses for 78s - I think a round rather than elliptical one is recommended and possibly a bigger diameter. I remember those swivel head cartridges too. However I do have a Dual turntable in the attic (because it doesn't work anymore) which has a fixed head plus a 78 rpm speed setting - but I think you'd wear out a good stylus pretty quick playing 78s with it.

6anbatte wrote:davek wrote :@ BMD

Simply play the 78 RPM record from your regular turntable set on 45 RPM.......

Hi Dave

Are you sure about playing 78s with a standard stylus?

If I remember rightly when I had a deck that played 78s the cartridge had the facility to swivel and use a stylus that was specifically designed for 78s.
It could be my old memory playing me up so I am happy to stand corrected, of course.

Hi 6anbatte
I was probablt more focused on the "pitch" part, and saving Mikey money than the viability of playing it with a standard cartridge and stylus. I also remember the old needles that had the flip over for 78's. I used to play my uncle's 78's (jazz & blues), and I don't think I usually flipped it. Oops!

If you read my post fully you'll see that I wa already aware of teh .Wav and ressampling/pitch shifting/bending possibilities and I have looked at all these issues, styli etc, but there is one important factor with using .Wav and pitch bending to speed up a 33 and a third dubbing of a 78rpm and that is that doing so will also increase the pitch of any pops and scratches also lifting their pitch, which isn't what would happen when listening to the pop or scratch at the correct speed/pitch. Hence the resultant recording will not be an accurate representation of 'sound' at 78rpms.

Have you noticed that a scratch and or pop sound similar to each other when they're at 33 or 45, or even 78? Well they do, not exactly, but close enough, so speeding up the entire recording will result in a 'strange' reproduction.