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Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:00 am
by Boobuhluh
OK, I got a good one: Can anyone point me to an obvious example (hopefully on something widely available) of the
so-called "flying cymbal" sound that's always referred to in discussion of Bunny Lee's production? Maybe several so I stand a better chance of having/finding it?
Thanks.
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:20 am
by Mick Sleeper
"Move Out Of Babylon" by Johnny Clarke comes to mind right away.
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:49 am
by abey
In search of something that would give his productions an edge, Lee had Soul Syndicate drummer Carlton 'Santa' Davis change the beat. As Johnny told Carl Gayle in 1975: "Niney didn't have any flying cymbals in his things, but the same drumming. We created a new cymbal sound. When we went to do "None Shall Escape..." at Duke Reid's studio, Bunny came in and said he wanted something 'out of space', so Santa started playing like that and Bunny said yeah. And people get into it..."
http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/cds/sleeves/bafcd024.pdf
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:25 pm
by Inyaki
Is an open hihat type of feel like in some early disco -funk or even Calypso earlier. Sly played that before on Double Barrell (5 years earlier)
Just get Tubbys to EQ the hell out of it and give it a bit of filtering for extra flavour..."out of space"
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:43 pm
by earl grey
Yeah, lots of Johnny Clarke tracks from the mid 70s have the flying cymbal as well as Cornell Campbell cuts like "Dance inna Greenwich Farm"
It was Santa's response to the proto-disco "Philly sound" popularized in the U.S by MFSB.
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:52 pm
by Prince Sharkskin
....that's a prime example!
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:18 am
by DUDLEY 1NE
This might stray off the path a little, but this is my personal view on the Agrovattors.
http://www.roots-archives.com/forum/rea ... #msg-52693
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:51 am
by Boobuhluh
Oh, OK; I always thought of that as a Donna Summer Disco Beat. Or rather, a PiL "Death Disco" beat.
(psss-SUP - psss-SUP - psss-SUP....etc.)
Thanks everybody.
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:38 am
by abey
Mexican ska from 1965 or 1964 with "flyin cymbal" style
[Los Socios del Ritmo - Skokian](
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABx1VzEIg98)
Re: Bunny Lee Flying Cymbal?
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:10 pm
by suzifan
I heard duke reid created the first flying cymbal when the drummer play something he did not like!!
