does anyone think joe lickshot actually added anything to anything?

[informer]

just checked the archives, it's called "Tristan Palma meets Early B the doctor" ....

[Dave K]

@Jahbill

So when you review this thread, it looks like the general consensus is that they adds little, or actually detract, from most recordings, but it adds a little bit of drama and excitement in the dancehall.

This music is made to be played on loud, fine-tuned sets, and won't translate well to something like an i*pod or even a home stereo.

Going to a good dance in JA is like the Grateful Dead for some - many didn't "get" what they were all about based on recordings, but when they saw them live, the sense of being "in the moment" with a like-minded community of people was a transcendental experience.

[Keromak128]

Joe Lickshot is on the dub counter-action of Robert Ffrench meets Frankie Pauls-Reggae for the World, on the Scarface label/black solidarity Ossie T & Phillip Morgan production. All digital tunes, most of the tracks are black explotation movies & aggrovated titles such as(Hell up in Harlem, Rambo, Scarface, Buck Town, Lets do it again, a few dollars more, final mission, Ninja, Shank I shock). With a excellent Limonious cartoon on the cover.... I've had this lp for years & years, never knowing till just recently that Robert Ffrench & Frankie Paul did a vocal lp counterpar. Which is killer by the way...

Personally I think Joe Lickshot & Jackie Knockshot both are for the live dancehall/stageshowes more than studio work. They are they're to get the crowd hyped and add flavor to the experience... For studio works they are good for intro's kinda like Fuzzy Jones.....
Respect

[rasdragon]

from roots archive:

Heartbeat LP #HB 29 1986
Heartbeat CD #CDHB 29 1988
Record date : 1986

Album style : dancehall, solo vocal

Playlist :
Victim Of Society
Nah Follow Nuh Fashion
Hard Time Rock
All Day And Night
Charlie Chaplin & Sugar Minott - Four Wheel Wheelie
You've Got The Love
Jackie Lickshot & Sugar Minott - War And Crime
Down The Line
Nuh Know It Like Me
Run Come
Rhythmatic
Inna Rub A Dub

Arranger : Sugar Minott

Vocals : Sugar Minott

note: jackie lickshot. guess its a typo because yeah its jackie knockshot vs joe lickshot.

one of sm's best albums by the way.

ps: big up boomshot hope maui is still treating you well and vice versa!

one love
jah bill

I agree great lp, but it should be noted that it should be sought on the Black Roots label (sorry we have been slow to add the new scans) pressed at Dynamics.

[Dave K]

jb welda wrote :from roots archive:

Heartbeat LP #HB 29 1986
Heartbeat CD #CDHB 29 1988
Record date : 1986

Album style : dancehall, solo vocal

Playlist :
Victim Of Society
Nah Follow Nuh Fashion
Hard Time Rock
All Day And Night
Charlie Chaplin & Sugar Minott - Four Wheel Wheelie
You've Got The Love
Jackie Lickshot & Sugar Minott - War And Crime
Down The Line
Nuh Know It Like Me
Run Come
Rhythmatic
Inna Rub A Dub

Arranger : Sugar Minott

Vocals : Sugar Minott

note: jackie lickshot. guess its a typo because yeah its jackie knockshot vs joe lickshot.

one of sm's best albums by the way.

ps: big up boomshot hope maui is still treating you well and vice versa!

one love
jah bill

I agree great lp, but it should be noted that it should be sought on the Black Roots label (sorry we have been slow to add the new scans) pressed at Dynamics.

RD

Why? Did Dynamics cut a new stamper, or did they just use the Heartbeat plates? If it's the former, do you know the matrix number?

[alastair]

From Beth Lesser's Dancehall book:

"He knew his arms and could imitate the sound of each individual weapon- M16,AK47,German Luger,SLR,Enforcer, many of which were around the Kingston streets in those days. His special talent was that he could pronounce a persons name within the sound of a gunshot. He could also mix peoples names into the sound of guns exploding in a hail of bullets.This meant that he was very much in demand making special requests to people in the dance."

[jb welda]

i have no idea why someone should seek it out on the black roots label; my heartbeat cd sounds just fine, dynamic, well engineered, full of bass and fully lacking surface noise.

new york party: yes indeed that is one track that joe lickshot is on and in fact the whole LP that track appears on has him doing overdubs, nearly every song. i think they would be ok in moderation but its way overboard here. add to that they are like i mentioned flatulence like rather than gunshot like. jackie knockshot, going by the sugar minott song war and crime, is much better sounding and puts the effects in proper places (maybe that was down to sugar minott?).

as for that other comment, i am well aware of the jamaican dancehall scene and have been to a number of them in person over the years.

but when someone brings up the grateful dead, though, you immediately lose me as an audience member. and its not that i dont "get it". its that ive been bored with those yokels since about 1973, and living in their neighborhood hasnt helped that at all. i mean literally living in their neighborhood...i lived in stinson beach when garcia was there and had to put up with all these crusties hanging around everywhere stealing whatever they could and panhandling anyone who looked like an easy touch. i respect them on some (technical mostly) levels but other than that i think the world would be a better place if they had just packed it in 20 years ago. i remember in 1968 they had something to offer but by 73 or so it was all over if you ask me (and of course you didnt but you did bring them up in a thread i started).

one love
jah bill

[flashman]

but when someone brings up the grateful dead, though, you immediately lose me as an audience member. and its not that i dont "get it". its that ive been bored with those yokels since about 1973, and living in their neighborhood hasnt helped that at all. i mean literally living in their neighborhood...i lived in stinson beach when garcia was there and had to put up with all these crusties hanging around everywhere stealing whatever they could and panhandling anyone who looked like an easy touch. i respect them on some (technical mostly) levels but other than that i think the world would be a better place if they had just packed it in 20 years ago. i remember in 1968 they had something to offer but by 73 or so it was all over if you ask me (and of course you didnt but you did bring them up in a thread i started).

one love
jah bill

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
@&#$%^$%^$&'n hilarious!! Couldn't agree more!

[flashman]

Though I guess you weren't necessarily being funny, but the "been bored with those yokels since about 1973" just killed me:)

[ACEtone]

I've always found the tenuous hippie stoner / reggae 'connection' baffling. Sure there must be plenty of hippie types who love reggae as well as the hippie s$%t music but as far as I'm concerned, it is coincidental and not meaningful in any way except to those who have the strange combination of tastes

I heard a few Grateful Dead tracks about 30 years ago and thought - what is this shite? - never gave them another thought.