Hot Milk - The Upsetters

[Dubmart]

I don't have "Sound Doctor" and have already stated my only experience of a Pressure Sounds problem with the Mighty Travelers single where they immediately corrected it and replaced faulty copies.

With everyone using digital files for mastering a slow tape machine causing a speed problem is out of the equation so how PS ended up with a slow record/CD is very strange, is the pitch out or have they corrected it meaning the speed change is deliberate?

[blackarkrock]

I don't have "Sound Doctor" and have already stated my only experience of a Pressure Sounds problem with the Mighty Travelers single where they immediately corrected it and replaced faulty copies.

With everyone using digital files for mastering a slow tape machine causing a speed problem is out of the equation so how PS ended up with a slow record/CD is very strange, is the pitch out or have they corrected it meaning the speed change is deliberate?

Some thoughts here:
http://www.roots-archives.com/forum/vie ... r&start=80

[Congo Bunny]

The Gathers start over, if you listen to that track on the wonderman comp and then on the PS comp it is so obvious that the Trojan one is at the right speed.

What is more likely that every one from that comp that was previously released was accidentally sped up or that PS screwed up..... I politely decline PS's explanation as bull flap.

So to get get back on thread 2 to 3 secs of fade out on one song isn't even close to what other record companies are trying to fob us off with

[Funky Punk]

The Gathers start over, if you listen to that track on the wonderman comp and then on the PS comp it is so obvious that the Trojan one is at the right speed.

What is more likely that every done from that comp that was previously released was accidentally sped up or that PS screwed up..... I politely decline PS's explanation as bull flap.

So to get get back on thread 2 to 3 secs of fade out on one song isn't even close to what other record companies are trying to fob us off with

I think that what pissed people off in this case was that MellowMan acknowledged that he knew about a problem - but didn't offer to put things right for those who'd already bought the CD.

PS said that there was nothing wrong with their CD - and I suppose that some people still think that it's fine.

[Congo Bunny]

I do see your point, I really do. In an idea world those of us who bother to pay for our reggae rather than steal it should never have to put up with crap from record companies.

Personally I much prefer someone who screws up and admits it to someone who screws up and refuses to admit it

Sorry just hearing that gathers track at the right speed yesterday reminded how me how much the sound dotor error annoyed me

[Dubmart]

Some thoughts here:

http://www.roots-archives.com/forum/vie ... r&start=80

I missed that last year, very strange, all I can say is that unless you are copying everything from 1/4" using a slow tape machine and nobody noticed, something I assume PS weren't doing, then the only way to screw the speed up is deliberately.

[Congo Bunny]

I missed that last year, very strange, all I can say is that unless you are copying everything from 1/4" using a slow tape machine and nobody noticed, something I assume PS weren't doing, then the only way to screw the speed up is deliberately.

Could it not depend what software they put it in to master it. I was able to speed up the Tonga Stewart track in some shareware software, it would have been very easy to accidentally speed that up. Surely you can also alter the speed the tape plays back at, I uses to be able to do that 10 years ago on my little foutrack there was a button that you could easily knock and not notice if the error was only slight (which its is with Sound Doctor)

[Dubmart]

Could it not depend what software they put it in to master it. I was able to speed up the Tonga Stewart track in some shareware software, it would have been very easy to accidentally speed that up. Surely you can also alter the speed the tape plays back at, I uses to be able to do that 10 years ago on my little foutrack there was a button that you could easily knock and not notice if the error was only slight (which its is with Sound Doctor)

Let's take it as a given that there were never any tapes with all the tracks on, some or all of them came from vinyl, if any came from tape they were from different reels. The tapes would have been transferred to digital, probably 24/96 BWFs (Broadcast Wav Format) or just Wavs in Pro Tools, the records would have been recorded and digitised, if it was me that would have also been hi res PCM 24/96 BWFs, but it could be anything down to mp3s. The tracks taken from vinyl would need audio restoration, do the credits mention this? It may nave been done by the mastering engineer, was Kevin Metcalfe involved? Once the tape files are transferred and the vinyl files are transferred and cleaned the mastering engineer will assemble the tracks in the correct order, make sure all the starts and endings are correct, nothing before or after the music and that any fade outs are correct. He will then add the silent gaps between the tracks and EQ the separate vinyl and CD versions ready to be mastered. Professionals would notice if they had cocked the speed up, the person who compiled it and others should listen to the mastered tracks BEFORE they are sent off to the plants as a final check, they should also have spotted a speed change, or if any tracks had been cut. As a last safeguard people should have noticed the test pressings sounded slow. So the only way I can see the speed on all tracks and all three formats being changed is if somebody did it deliberately in software, either that or several professional people weren't doing their job properly.