Lee Perry - The Sound Doctor!

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blackarkrock
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Mick Sleeper wrote:I'm pretty sure the good people at Pressure Sounds would notice if the records were playing at the wrong speed!
Yes, that´s what I´d LIKE to think - and never before have I noticed any speed problem with their previous releases. I have most of them!
But all mentioned/linked tracks so far ARE running slower on the official CD I bought from their website.

Anyway - thanks for your superb podcasts, Mick!
Congo Bunny
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It's possible PS could have made a mistake, anyone can make a mistake. I do not have it in for PS let me make that clear, they are an awesome record company and I have bought almost every one of their releases. But if something is wrong with this release they need to grow a pair of balls and admit it.

I think that if they are running slow its not very noticeable, I didn't notice it until people here said something.

If the people at PS have been listening to these tracks for weeks on end a little slow they would sound ok to their ears, they need to do some comparisons. It's very easy when you listento music over and over to completely ignore mistakes in it
Bobbo
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I got it yesterday...sounds great to me...really good mastering job actually...that second Dillinger track is the dope...
Rootsman
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Congo Bunny wrote:If the people at PS have been listening to these tracks for weeks on end a little slow they would sound ok to their ears, they need to do some comparisons. It's very easy when you listento music over and over to completely ignore mistakes in it
Well keep listening and it should sound fine in a couple of weeks :D

Personlly I still dont think it runs slow. Tinga Stewart inna Drunken Master Stylee is ok with me :)
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Congo Bunny wrote:It's possible PS could have made a mistake, anyone can make a mistake. I do not have it in for PS let me make that clear, they are an awesome record company and I have bought almost every one of their releases. But if something is wrong with this release they need to grow a pair of balls and admit it.

I think that if they are running slow its not very noticeable, I didn't notice it until people here said something.

If the people at PS have been listening to these tracks for weeks on end a little slow they would sound ok to their ears, they need to do some comparisons. It's very easy when you listento music over and over to completely ignore mistakes in it
I spoke to **[Pete](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_Sounds)** and he said, and I quote;

"It all plays at exactly the speed its intended to."
"Now I know the truth and must reveal it unto the youth."
flashman
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Well, I just got my copy and I have to say blackarkrock seems more correct than PS Pete. 006 and Different Experience, if nothing else, are clearly slower than their Double 7 and Return of Wax counterparts. Or compare 006 to Auntie Lulu on Jr Byles, When Will Better Come album, it's way slower. Unless those are sped up and this release has them at their correct speed finally.

I still think Tinga Stewart and Tony Fearon's vocals sound oddly slowed down as well, but that's just speculation. The others aren't though: anyone with functioning ears can hear that easily.
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Sorry to continue to harp on this, but listen to this version of the Tony Fearon track on youtube: http://youtu.be/at2Ex97_pfQ

Not that some random you tube vid is more authoritative than Pressure Sounds, but just listen to it and it sounds way more natural. The version on the PS comp makes him almost sound like he's slurring.

I'm convinced that most of the comp is oddly slowed down. Of course they're going to claim it's supposed to be that way. I could still be wrong, but there just seems to be a lot of evidence that the versions on Sound Doctor are slightly slower. OR, all the ones that sound slow were sped up in their original release? Sounds unlikely. But if you take 006/Auntie Lulu for example, those drum fills on the Trojan versions sound almost inhumanly fast.

Anyway, I still really like listening to Sound Doctor as is but it will always be something of an anomaly in my book.
Congo Bunny
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I have to agree Flashman, I've given up bringing it up, but I don't care what pressure sounds or anyone else says for that matter, some if not all of these tracks are slow. the tinga one, I think it would be very hard the play the drums the way they are played, I mean they just don't sound quite right......
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I finally got a CD copy of Sound Doctor and started noticing the "too slow" criticism almost right away. I was curious, so I ripped three tracks (Oppression, Key Card, and Different Experience) and then compared them to digital recordings of the original vinyl in Wavelab. Seems that the tracks on Sound Doctor all average 20-25 seconds longer than the vinyl.
This is upsetting: http://www.upsetter.net
flashman
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A Ha! Vindicated! Like I said though, I still like the comp. I was pleasantly surprised by it, slow or not. The Tony Fearon is more stony at that speed, for lack of a better adjective.
I wonder what went wrong. But can you imagine what it would take for PS to fix it? Redo the whole thing, etc? Ain't gonna happen.
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