Is Marley reggae?

[oddsnobb grits]

Too mucho off-topico.
There seems to be an ecclesiastical dispute between two honourable members but not about music of Marley.
I am wondering leggo rocker if you have plenty of reggae records you don't find Marley's music rather nonreggaeish musicwise.
OK, we people listen music so very differently.
My point being that Marley's importance to reggae is more publicity than musical one.
I'd like to quote This is Reggae Music (aka Bass Culture) by Lloyd Bradley:"In fact, from purely musical point of view, he(Marley) wasn't even operating in parallel to reggae's growth lines but marking time somewher behind the cutting edge.".

[leggo rocker]

My point being that Marley's importance to reggae is more publicity than musical one.

This is absolutely true. And I've tried to argue this point too.

Of course he didn't make the best reggae ever. Not even my personal favourite reggae music.

Oras thinks his fame somehow ruined reggae music. Whereas I'd put the blame for that firmly in the lap of King Jammy and his confounded move to the digital thing. Of course, if he hadn't done it, someone else would have, so I don't blame him *personally*.

[oddsnobb smiles]

If Oras thinks that Marley ruined reggae, he's wrong. So pityfully tweeny influence was that.
Which has always puzzled me, why there wasn't any copycats in Jamaica that being tradition there. If Johnny Clarke did five reggae versions of Marley that might be the most.
Yes I cried and cried when the digitalismus entered into reggae.

[leggo rocker]

Even Marley, as big as he got, couldn't do much to change the course of reggae music in Jamaica.

Look at the records on here dated after he made it big in Europe. Are they bad? Have they been ruined?

I just can't see any logical basis for that viewpoint.

Perhaps he means because Marley made reggae famous it meant lots of people liked it, and not just a the Jamaicans and a small clique outside JA. And maybe he doesn't like that.

But I maintain that perhaps 75% of people on here, and just about everyone from outside Jamaica, wouldn't have got into reggae without his influence.

The first reggae I really heard was Steel Pulse on the telly, and Marley's Jammin' on a jukebox.

The first reggae I had in my hand was a cassette of Leggo Dub. So he really ruined it for me, right?

[Jah Glu]

Oras thinks his fame somehow ruined reggae music. Whereas I'd put the blame for that firmly in the lap of King Jammy and his confounded move to the digital thing. Of course, if he hadn't done it, someone else would have, so I don't blame him personally.

What wrong with "digital thing"? You see this is just your personal meaning, which i respect and therefore dont make a big deal about. Why cant you treat me the same way? Not saying that you cant comment on what i say, not at all, but why portray me as some kind of troublemaker...

Jah Glu wrote :Btw. i think that Bob Marley is reggae. Bad reggae. Pop reggae...

And I think your opinion is poorly thought out bigotry.

Here's why:



Please tell me how 'Get Up Stand Up' has gone from inspirational roots rebel chant, to bad reggae pop reggae in the last 30 years.

Unbelievable.

I am not saying that the lyrics are "pop". I think that the music is crap.. And by saying "Unbelievable" it is like i have done something wrong, like HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT IT IS BAD! UNBELIEVABLE!, but it is just my opinion, nothing more, so why make such a big fuss about it?...

[Guest]

Litelet wrote :Hypocryite is a 1968 cut, Rocksteady time. Its on the flip of Mellow Mood on Wail'N Soul'M, Bob's first label.

yep! but it was recorded at brentford road. check lone ranger's "natty dread on the go" and the version called "roots style".

lots of people here even ignored that "one love" was originally played by the skatalites and recorded at brentford road.

marley had the chance to start working with some of the greatest jamaican geniuses : coxsone, perry and tosh. during this period these guys turned nearly everything they touched into gold.

that's why like I said before, young generations and people who don't know much about jamaica's musical history tend to believe marley was a kind of founder. they re-write History and try to teach us the coming of bob marley is something crucial. when it's not...

give thanx for this text.

one ting i would like to know still: what is "brentford road" is that a coxsone studio?

[leggo rocker]

Unbelievable because I think anyone who loves reggae can't honestly call a track like 'Get Up Stand up' pop. I really find it hard to believe that you REALLY think this track, and the LP, is pop, or even crap. Yes, it may be an opinion, but it's one I find hard to believe is really genuine.

Nothing wrong with the digital thing in isolation. I have maybe 100 digital LPs. But the way that it seemed to bring about the almost fatal decline of analogue reggae seems to be a shame.

So calm down JG, nothing personal meant here at all.

[I-Lion Tafari]

Blessed!

Is Marley reggae?

You also could have asked: Is water wet? Or fire hot? Or: How many 10 commandments do you know?
Question asked in these plastic times where they spoil his works by mixing them "new" with some mc donalds gimmick effects. And then call it "reggae".

Yes, sure, Bob´s reggae, what else should it be??
Is Marley roots? Strictly roots!
Bob is a root in regggae. And a gifted talent who is able to play many styles.

Seems, some are angry that he became rich and made his way. Money is no sin if you earn and use it honestly. It is said there are poor a**holes too, I know some!

I love a tune - or not. No matter who the artist is or which exact style in reggae it is. But: It has to be great.

ROOTS ROCK REGGAE

[MightyZ]

Brentford Road is the address of Studio One when it was still in Jamaica Don. Hence many Studio One albums credit the musicians as The Brentford Road All Stars or similar.

MightyZ

[algonquinmd]

I think it's important that the "king of reggae" title is not something that Bob or his family created, it was givin' to him by a host of his Legitimate Jamaican Roots Peers(as a tribute to him after his death)! My Favorite being the Legendary Prince FAr I