Weird Reggae Dub albums

[babaluma1]

I was listening to Keith Hudson's Playing It Cool, Playing It Right album today and wanted to know if anyone can recommend their most spaced out weird freaky dub or reggae albums? Of course dub is an incredibly experimental music but are there any particularly "out there" albums that go that extra mile into madness! You don't even have to love them, just something that you think maybe of interest to me.

I love dub but also a lot of German cosmic music from the 70's and found there were similar production techniques applied by bands like Can as used by the great dub engineers. A lot of Playing It Cool, Playing It Right sounded like you could plonk a German white man's voice on it and it would fit right into a space rock album.

[kevin]

The Can / dub connection is not so weird. Holger Czukay is on record as stating that he rates Lee Perry as a genius and sonic soul mate.
I know what you mean about the Hudson album. Some of the wildest Scientist or Perry dubs have had big influence on loads of 'rock' bands.

[6anbatte]

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Creation Rebel - "Threat To Creation"

[DUDLEY 1NE]

Contempo dub / Black Jade

[Balughetto]

Tradition - Tradition in Dub (High Risk Dub)

[Congo Bunny]

Tough question, I don't think you'll beat that Keith Hudson set for weirdness

I don't get how Contempo dub / Black Jade is weird.. to me its bog standard early dub with almost nothing remarkable about it, other than that it is very nice and mellow to listen to.

The closest thing to weird I could think of was The Secret Dub Life Of The Flying Lizards

I can think of numerous dub albums that are remarkable for being different from the majority of other dub albums, but very few that stand out for being weird.

I was thinking super ape, but then I don't really regard that as a dub album to me it is more of a roots experimental type affair

[Balughetto]

may be try "Jimmy Radway - Dub I"

Giving a listen to Flicker from the flying lizards LP, what a strange and refreshing sound. definetly fits the "weird" dub theme.

[chromium1]

The two Playgroup albums on On-U / Cherry Red - 'Epic Sound Battles' chapter 1 & 2 are both quite odd dub albums. Bit more than dub really with library / soundtrack/ experimental elements.... but an interesting listen. They've dated quite well.
Chapter 2 better than Chapter 1 imo.

[babaluma1]

Thanks for the ideas, been checking out Playgroup and Creation Rebel, really cool!

To answer my own question I was thinking that some of the Pop Group's albums were quite dubby and definitely weird! Also some of 23 Skidoo's stuff. I have to dig those albums out again!

[chromium1]

The first Pop Group album was produced by Dennis Bovell and it certainly contains dubwise sounds and moods - but it's very much a post-punk/ avant-funk record really. Very experimental in parts. It was an absolute master-stroke getting DB to produce the album.

The 2nd Pop Group album wasn't produced by DB - and its not such a good album imo..... but its ok with more of a political stance... and more punk/funk styles.

Dennis Bovell also produced the first Slits album which is another good crossover punk/reggae album.

If you like this era of music (late 70s) then you may enjoy This Heat who also combined dub techniques with post-punk/ avant-rock ideas.