Frankie Jones "Satta And Praise Jah"

[wareika]

I was listening to this LP ( http://www.roots-archives.com/release/1458 ) yesterday just after listening the first Black Uhuru "Love Crisis" ( http://www.roots-archives.com/release/1685 ).

Long time I planed to listen this two Lps in a row, cause I always wondered if the F Jones LP is a Jammy production or not. The F Jones LP credit B Lee as producer, but from the first day I bought it I never thought it was a real B Lee production.

Here are some reasons for this statement:

The point is that there is no classic B Lee riddims and it's really unusual. When you check the B Lee produced LPs from 77 you always find some riddims used by several artists. It was a kind of B Lee trademark. Last but not least most of the B Lee produced LPs (actually all but some instrumental and dub sets) are compilation of single released before. Most of, if not all, the tune on the FJ set never appeared as single.

The second point is that the introduction of Jammy in the production business had a lot to do with B Lee. B Lee was the man who help Jammy to become a producer. For instance he introduced Jammy to Count Shelly. C Shelly (owner of Third World and other related labels) distributed what is concedered as the first Jammy produced LP: Black Uhuru "Love Crisis" (the first mix on Third World label). All this took place in 77 during a Jammy and B Lee trip in UK.

The third point is the music itself which does not sound as B lee production from 77. It sounds more as the first Black Uhuru set. Hard to explain, but basicly, heavy riddim with simple arrangements. There are no horns, the guitare and keyboards arrangements are simple and the drum and bass are predominents.

So I wonder if the F Jones LP is the first Jammy set. I imagine a situation more or less like this: Jammy was the actual producer (so he is credited as mixer / from memory it's rare to have a mixer credited on the Third World LPs) and B Lee paid the session and gave the masters to Shelly.

Any one have an idea or an information to confirm or not this point of view?


wareika

[Lion]

All of them work together even now a day.
Ina the studio's with rydims/mix/singers etc.
Sometimes they put namens on the sleaves that sales better.

Lion

[Ranking BC]

Greetings,

I too listened to this Frankie Jones LP last night, enjoyed it very much. I do not know anything regarding the production, however I noticed that there is a Frankie Jones song called Colly George on King Jammy's compilation 'A Man & His Music Volume 1'. Sounds like it's probably a late 70's production as well. Just thought I would mention it...

Blessings, BC

[SDroots]

bunny lee production forsure.

[Riddle I]

Maybe Ossie Hibbert in the mix with some Bunny Lee?

Neville Lee had some involvement too.

[wareika]

Hi

Lion, I do know sometime the credit goes to popular producer or mixer (for dub) in order to sell plenty copies. This is why I'm sceptic regarding this F Jone set.

Ranking BC. i have this comp and listened to the FJ tune. This tune on the comp is in the same vein as the one on the LP.

DSroots, why for sure? Do you have any infos or is it based on the credits on cover?

Riddle I, I didn't know BL used to work with, O Hibbert. You perhaps right.

Thanx for your answers


wareika

[Jah Wise]

Album is 100% Bunny Lee & Soul Syndicate broda... no doubt...

peace

[DUDLEY 1NE]

great lp by frankie jones, they should compile a nice set for him.