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[Guest]

oras wrote : i don't know where you're living but you should know that you actually have access to books for free...

I presume you mean in libraries?

The books there are free only in the same way as records played on the radio are free.

really??? how come I can bring books home and read them when I want?

sorry but the way you and your friends are defending music business tends to be ridiculous...

is it because this site gets money from the music business?

if you really had that much respect for artists properties would you use leggo dub artwork for your "classic reggae radio station"?

me no fool

[Lion]

And this behaviour is closedown,
shops,distributors,wholesalers,labels,studio etc.
and people lose there job.

"if you are a conscious man"

"I&I SUPPORT THE MUSIC BY BUYING IT AND NOT BY ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING"

Lion

[duh !]

"how come I can bring books home and read them when I want?"

You have to take them back though dont you, unless you keep them, which would then be called theft, would`nt it, so your analogy not so credible, is it !

You know nothing of the music business yet you feel qualified to defend your right to download other peoples hard and costly works, not everyone in music is a Kanye West earning millions, most work for a very small living, especially those in reggae music, which for many is thier way to food, cloth and shelter themselves.

Downloading is affecting reggae music business big time, anyone in it knows it, record shops both high street and online are struggling, distributors have gone bankrupt, record sales have fallen dramatically. So what do you expect to happen for those people involved that earn their living from it, get another job, what job, even affluent countries struggle to give its population worthwhile employment. The music business was one way for many to keep thier heads above water. Maybe you dont care because your happy with your free music, the music world thanks you very much.. the real babylon system is around us on all levels !

[kukuman]

You know nothing of the music business yet you feel qualified to defend your right to download other peoples hard and costly works, not everyone in music is a Kanye West earning millions, most work for a very small living, especially those in reggae music, which for many is thier way to food, cloth and shelter themselves.

This is the way it's been forever, long before the Internet became popular. The music industry is rotten to the core and it has nothing to do with file sharing. The whole industry has been in need of a major overhaul for some time now, and file sharing is the impetus. This is the economic reality of our times, and while it is a shame that honest businesses are being affected, this is just an economic cycle like those that happen in every other industry.

[Guest]

You know nothing of the music business yet you feel qualified to defend your right to download other peoples hard and costly works,

Downloading is affecting reggae music business big time, anyone in it knows it, record shops both high street and online are struggling, distributors have gone bankrupt, record sales have fallen dramatically.

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND???
I don't defend illegal dowloading or copying...
some people here are just trying to fool you and supporting their music business friends cos they got money from them

I&I don't deal with capitalism
dog bites dog
computer business bites music business
I won't cry for them... NEVER

[picaraza]

@oras,

Reading your rants is almost enough to make me feel sympathy for the music industry. The swipe at duh! and Leggo is really uncalled for.

kukuman gives a measured response that I think is on the whole pretty accurate for the music industry as a whole. But, I'm not sure that it applies very well to Blood&Fire Pressure Sounds, etc. to be honest.

I don't think they are rotten to the core. To my mind they put a lot of work into delivering quality releases of crucial sounds. (I think Trojan has done pretty well recently as well-- yeah, its the same stuff but the package is better).

And I'll be extremely disappointed to see them disappear.

[Guest]

And this behaviour is closedown,
shops,distributors,wholesalers,labels,studio etc.
and people lose there job.

keep on spreading your paranoia!

when people are afraid they stop thinking.
when they stop thinking they just buy any crap.
that's what you want?

[leggo rocker]

leggo rocker wrote :oras wrote : i don't know where you're living but you should know that you actually have access to books for free...

I presume you mean in libraries?

The books there are free only in the same way as records played on the radio are free.


really??? how come I can bring books home and read them when I want?

sorry but the way you and your friends are defending music business tends to be ridiculous...

is it because this site gets money from the music business?

if you really had that much respect for artists properties would you use leggo dub artwork for your "classic reggae radio station"?

me no fool

If you are no fool then how come you don't realise that the libraries have to pay for books out of municipal funds. Municipal funds come from taxes. We pay the taxes. SO effectively, we are buying the books, even the ones we don't read. And libraries, in the UK at least, used to loan records and tapes, and later CDs.

Me defend the music industry?

Read my lines again, like these ones:

"It would also be good if, instead of crying 'thief' all the time about piracy, they put their own house in order and made sure they actually PAID the artists money owed to them!"

And dig a bit deeper and you'll see my threads and posts criticizing the way record execs live a life of luxury and their offices are ivory towers etc etc.

As for the stupid jibe about Roots-Archives getting paid by the record label, say what? Are you serious? Of course it doesn't, not a penny, not a cent. The guys that set this brilliant resource up for people like us to enjoy - for free - have done it ALL at their own expense and you should be grateful for that and hold off with the insulting comments. You're way out of line.

So what is your idea of the economic model that will support the creation of music for worldwide distribution via free downloading and still being able to make the money to pay the artists, writer, publisher, studio and producer? I'd love to hear it, and I am sure so would the record industry who are scrabbling around for a way forward into this new future they face.

And you say: "I&I don't deal with capitalism" - You don't?

Then how are you making these posts? On a computer? Running Windoze probably, the product of the world's most successful capitalists. And I guess you never buy anything in a shop? You're not really making a lot of sense Oras.

The words 'false rasta' just entered my mind for some reason...

[Sir Marvin]

I&I don't deal with capitalism
dog bites dog
computer business bites music business
I won't cry for them... NEVER

I wonder, what kind of capitalism is associated with R-A and it's contributors...



I red an interesting interview with bassist Vic Rice, he had something to tell:
"... i support sharing music
and copying, i don't believe in the term 'pirating', unless the intent is to sell the recording. ultimately i think the musicians themselves benefit from it, other means of support.
but PLEASE-try to listen to a higher quality than MP3! our standards of audio quality are going down with the digital revolution but they don't have to. do yourself and your favorite bands a favor and listen to uncompressed audio whenever possible- .wav, .aiff, .SDII, whatever.

just try to hear the real thing..."

[leggo rocker]

but PLEASE-try to listen to a higher quality than MP3! our standards of audio quality are going down with the digital revolution but they don't have to. do yourself and your favorite bands a favor and listen to uncompressed audio whenever possible- .wav, .aiff, .SDII, whatever.

just try to hear the real thing..."

I agree with that. And much of my discomfort with MP3 etc stems from the awful quality of the sound - they are like passing razor blades through my ears! And the youth are getting used to this degraded sound and don't know any better. Pity them who haven't heard a vinyl record spun on a good hi-fi.