The 10" record...when did it come into existance?

[ton1]

For general release (no dubplate or 78rpms) the 10" format appeared during the 80's (circa 83/84) on Channel One related labels (Hit Bound, JJ, J&L and so on).

Thanks wareika, I'd also say 83 or 82 with the On-U-Sound 10" in mind.

I have the feeling that the real reason is more linked with the raise of oil price (first in late 70's and in recent years). If you consider that you can put the same extended tune either on a 10" or a 12" disc, the 10" format saved a lot oil. I did the calculation once and from memory with the same amount of vynil you press either 2 x 12" or 3 x 10"...
wareika

Volume of a disc is approximately thickness*Pi*radius*radius so thickness x Pi x 0.25 x 0.25 for a 10" and thickness x Pi x 0.30 x 0.30 for a 12" so the difference is a factor 0.0625 against 0.09
With 3 10" 0.1875 and with 2 12" 0.18, you were right . May be a good argument...

[leggo rocker]

Some 10" are 45s. But many are 33rpms!

I even have some with 33rpm one side and 45 the other!! A nightmare for DJ's!

[Dadi Digi]

Early 80's for reggae 10 inches

[Jesco77]

They look neat, but more inclined to getting scratched when you lift them off the turntable (if it's a full size one) as you have to get your fingernails under them! Same true for 45s to a degree but they're easier to get off if they're JA/US big centre ones.

I've got a double 10" rock album from the early 70s ("Christmas at the Patti"/Various Welsh bands), but it doesn't qualify for this forum. It was also a very common format for classical records even after the demise of the 78.

[leggo rocker]

I've got a comedy 10inch 33rpm LP, somewhere, from the 50s. So the 10 inch LP format is obviously as old as the hills. Which would suggest that there are possible some reggae tens that predate the 80s, maybe?

[Matthew]

Righteous Roots Archives...thanks for 'ALL' the replies.
Great insight.
Seems we have this topic covered/sorted.

My 2 cents, on the 10" :
I'm sure the newer UK stuff comes with them but my few on African Museum and Stars don't have inner sleeves.
Dust magnets for sure.

[Bellyman]

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This was released as 10" too with the Front Line FCL 5001 matrix. Don't know if this is the earliest but this one is from 1978.

[jordandance]

I have an Al Green 10inch from the mid-late 70's.

[leggo rocker]

This was released as 10" too with the Front Line FCL 5001 matrix. Don't know if this is the earliest but this one is from 1978.

As in Front Line JA pressing? Not mentioned in the database, we only have the Virgin and Twinkle pressings showing.

[selecta bing]

http://www.discogs.com/release/174274

"Branson, you're a pickle that's not welcome on my (Disco)Plate."

Priceless.[/quote]



I love this track too
I guess you get the joke BRANSON / BRANSTON
(Branston is/was a type/brand of pickles !)

and the Prince goes on to pun about Draper
("to drap" is to cover)
Simon Draper was Richard BRANSTONS partner at Virgin

"MUSIC HAS NO PLACE IN A GALLERY"
love this line too
......Music is for everyone to enjoy

Na true?

I have a few 10" on the PK and HALF MOON labels WICKED !!