cannabis causes mental illness

[Guest]

the earth rasta nuh burn herb directly with fire they use a ting like a chalice but the weed is not burning straight in the kutchie it jus like get heat up like the one asthmatics use it is the only way to "smoke" anything else damage di lounghs. if you go to yard you can easily find a chalice like dat.

[AnorakTrev]

The " ordinary Babylonian " is AGAINST weed,doesn`t smoke it and suppresses or oppresses it.
Just because you aren`t Rasta, doesn`t mean you aren`t allowed to use it.The people that smoke cannabis or herb do so because they want too.Remember, it is not addictive.

Trevor

[super ape]

wehn already outta balance, any mind-expanding substance can make things worse for that person using it.
there are many medicines where cannabis is used. for example, in ayurvedic medicine, the body/mind is viewed as a whole, and the balance is restored through whatever methods are most beneficial. cannabis is used in ayurvedic medicine as well.
funny cuz lsd and mdma were originally used in pyschotherapy.

wait what was i talking about?

[Guest]

funny cuz lsd and mdma were originally used in pyschotherapy.

absolutely! but it doesn't mean that they have no bad or side fx just because they are used in medical treatments. the same for weed...

[Guest]

yea thats true and what i hear is LSD is made out mescal which arowok use to get more faithful, but not in a dose they use it in babylon, read carlos castaneda books it says nuff bout dat. anyway, the greedy babylon mind is destroying him self with nuff ovadose and from then a question start pop up like "am i shizzo?" know the limit, and if weed makes yu feel strange dash it wey, weed is not = weed, weed can be very different ALONE WHO GROW IT CAN AFFECT THE WHOLE PLANT, if a wikkid grow di plant it wont comfort yu maybe if the plant was not strong enough, plants react sameway on tings happening around same as little children, wha yu put in you get out.

[leggo rocker]

I think the point about Weed's use as a medical herb is an interesting one.

It is also true that many cultures, for many hundreds of thousands of years, have used marijuana as a sacrament, or as part of their rituals. For instance, smoking a marijuana chillum is part of the ritual and indeed existence of many followers of the God Shiva, Shivites, who is often associated with intoxicants in general and weed in particular.

Apart from ritual use, it has long time been used for many medicinal uses, pain killer, sleep inducer, appetite stimulation and more. I have some old herbal manuals that date back as far as the AD 1600's. Marijuana is in all of them as a medical plant. Only in the more recent manuals does it suddenly vanish from medical herbalism.

But like all medicines the misuse, incorrect dosage, incorrect potency, failure to grow correctly, or care properly for the plant - will mean it may not produce the desired effects.

As discussed in the previous herb thread, some methods of growing weed have been suggested to create the 'wrong' type of plant. And not everyone can 'handle' all the effects of this potent herb.

It is also an intoxicant. To say it doesn't alter the mind would be to deny the plain facts. To suggest it creates long term negative effects is, I feel, as yet only a theory.

The trouble is, in the world at present, we have too many interfering factors to be able to totally and scientifically isolate the effects of one substance and be sure that observed effects are not from another substance, or a combination of substances or environmental conditions.

For instance:

A man takes regular herb. He is living in a grim housing project, full of crime and dirt. He also takes other drugs, including coffee, nicotine and heroin. He also has a poor diet, missing many vital nutrients.

We observe his mental state and find he is not at all right. Do we blame herb?

Another man lives in the hills. He lives off the land. He is satisfied with his life. His diet is simple but effective. He does not take nicotine, heroin or even tea and coffee.

We observe that he is happy and his mind is well balanced.
Do we thus conclude herb has balanced his mind?

That is, for me, the flaw in all these so-called studies of the effects of herb.

However, my own observations suggest that many many people are not at all suited to the recreational use of marijuana. Particularly if it is taken to excess and without any break to enable the body to detoxify.

These are just my views, I wouldn't suggest any scientific backing for them. To be honest, I'm unsure but am tending to think that it amplifies some peoples existing mental weakness, rather than causes it.

[esaw isaw]

I like the point by titus that you dont have to smoke weed to be Rastafarian.And i think leggos last point above is the best yet. Thanks leggo

[esaw isaw]

woops!! i have been warned by a moderator to stop using an alias. so please shut this thread now ...ive said enough, and will keep posting on other threads under my RA login name..thanks

[super ape]

does anyone know how long it takes to detoxify the body after smoking herb? i don't mean 100 percent detoxified, meaning fasting and all that. but how long till the body more or less levels out?

btw, it is true not all rastafarians smoke. just talk to mutabaruka about that if you think its not true.

[super ape]

never mind, i found some good detox info.

i also wanted to agree with leggo on how many cultures all over the globe that have been using ganja for as long as tehy can remember.
and i wanted to point out that i think regular alcohol use (abuse) can cause way more mental health issues than herb. i guess that is pretty obvius, though.

but- look at how many famous reggae musicians smoke all day- how many of them are considered crazy? i can onlyl think of scratch, really, and he took lots of things, too much. i thnk he was prolly already wacko.
eek a mouse is pretty bonkers too but from what i have heard, at least almost 15 years ago, he was a crack addict.