king tubby (or scientist?) meets roots radics

[Bassie]

You mean this one Stepping Razor?
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Tommy McCook & The Aggrovators - King Tubby Meets The Agrovators At Dub Station.

No doubt it's a genuine Tubby's imho.

[stepping razor]

Yep thats the one Bassie thanks for finding the cover. I`d only seen it on pre release white label before.
I notice that Trojan has (I wouldn`t call it re-released) released the LP in 2007 and put a lot of extra tracks on it. I don`t know why they do that rather than the same tracks as the original!! CDs are longer and financial reasons.
Pure worries and pure King Tubbys!!

peace

[Dave K]

**Scientist is a mixer, which is last down the payroll line**

Yes, he is a mixer. However on LPs like "Rids The World...." and "World Cup" Scientist is the lead "artist", whose art is mixology.

He became a recognizable "brand name", which in turn sold records. Why shouldn't he receive an artist royalty on LPs that bear his name, just like any other artist does?

Did EA use Scientist tracks in their video game because they liked they horn charts? Or was it because that they thought that the ambience Scientist brought to them was conducive to what they were creating? My bet is that it's the latter.

This is the important point here:
Until Scientist put up a court battle over this, ALL of the royalties for the arrangement of the music being used in the video game were going to NO JA MUSICIANS, NO JA PRODUCERS (as Junjo "signed away" his future royalties just before his death)....NO JA ANYONE SEES A CENT OF THE DEAL! Ask yourself how this is "fair".

I give Scientist credit for trying to change this, just as I would for anyone who stands up for what they perceive to be an injustice.

[stepping razor]

peace

[Dave K]

Hi Razor

Junjo would license his music internationally, but maintained the rights to press it locally. When he was at his peak, almost all of his LPs came out both internationally (on Greensleeves or VP), and a few were just pressed locally (I do wish someone would re-issue Tony Tuff's "Come Fe Mash It" with extended versions and bonus tracks....it only came out locally on Volcano and I have never heard or seen a clean pressing of it) This is a common situation in JA music production. And of course the better money was with the international sales, especially in JA where dub LPs didn't sell that well.

**So it`s just about the video game then!!**

I doubt it. I don't know the full details behind his death....just rumours, theories and conjecture, which always abounds whenever anything eventful happens.

[boy o boy]

So I'm reading this thread and I have a few observations:
The first and most obvious observation is stepping razor's reaction, he (or maybe she) comes off as someone who is personally affected by Scientist's claims. Do you work for Greensleeves?
See, this is just what happens when people not involved in the creative process try to get involved in the commercial side of things. The thread is about who mixed what record and here goes our man 'stepping razor' raving on about how Scientist blows up sound systems. How does that fit into this conversation?
Now here's a very simple question that will end this argument: Is it ethical for any record companies to keep releasing records without paying the people who were involved in the creative process?

Another fact is that Greensleeves (or should I say MEANTHIEVES)forged Junjo's signature into the contracts.

And again, not once have I heard Scientist say that he was fighting just for himself, so the part about paying the Roots Radics was never a question.

[stepping razor]

peace

[Ron]

This discussion ends here. Stepping Razor, if you want to accuse Scientist or Sideversion or whoever, you know where to find him. Don't use this forum for whatever you try to do.