A small thread to point out this stunning LP which i never heard about until some nice 'internet guy' share it! This LP is apparently very rare, which is a shame considering its unusual content!
[cover=8148,5219]
The 'New cross fire' dub is just brillant (wicked horns!), the toasting track's Shake it up, Teach the world insanely groovy, there's even some VERY unusual instrumental tracks: Exodus (violin), Peace & love (Steel band!), They shall not die (pure Nyahbinghi !)
This one is crying out for a re-issue (Pressure Sound!!!), i wonder how many fascinating stories remain to be told about this daring project. Is there any other releases on Sir Collins label? When were these track recorded? (a '81 release which sounds very 'early 70s')
New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
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Lion
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
other album on this label is V.A Chapter 1 and there are also 7" and 12".
Lion
Lion
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jordandance
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
Collins seems always willing to experiment with different sounds. Love that LP.
You should hear this one
http://www.divshare.com/download/6773342-532
You should hear this one
http://www.divshare.com/download/6773342-532
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Rufus
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
Great to know there is other stuff hidden somewhere .. seems like it was a Collins familly affair (steve, leona, gary) ... are they relative of Dave & Ansel Collins ?
Btw, C(lancy).C. Collins & Sir Collins are the same person (http://www.roots-archives.com/release/5065)
Btw, C(lancy).C. Collins & Sir Collins are the same person (http://www.roots-archives.com/release/5065)
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Rufus
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
Just found this very informative note on Youtube ... just listen to this HAUNTING masterpiece ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNU_GahMkbg
these one are wicked as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFTuncoREk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9D-0lGsSNg
'It's that time of year to mark the anniversary of the New Cross Fire in 1981. As described in Deptford Fun City: "On Sunday 18th January 1981, 13 young black people, all between the ages of 15 and 20 years old, were killed in a fire at a birthday party at 439 New Cross Road. The police reported initially that the fire was caused by a firebomb, and many believed that it was a racist attack. On the following Sunday a mass meeting was held at The Moonshot Club, attended by over 1000 people. From that meeting there was a demonstration to the scene of the fire, which blocked New Cross Road for several hours.
The New Cross Massacre Action Committee organised weekly mass meetings in New Cross. It also called the Black People's Day of Action on Monday 2nd March 1981, the biggest mobilisation of black people ever seen in Britain. 20,000 marched over a period of eight hours from Fordham Park to Hyde Park with slogans including: 'Thirteen Dead and Nothing Said', 'No Police Cover-Up', 'Blood Ah Go Run If Justice No Come'.
Ever since the Fire, the police have leaked stories about breakthroughs, but have never charged anybody. Perhaps it will turn out not to have been a racist attack, but this was not the only issue at the time. The slogan of 'Thirteen Dead and Nothing Said' was a response to the official indifference to the deaths".
The tragedy was commemorated in a number of reggae songs and poems at the time. Sir Collins, whose son Steven died in the fire, recorded an album 'New Cross Fire' (sleeve pictured). Benjamin Zephaniah recorded '13 dead' and Linton Kwesi Johnson, New Craas Massahkah. Johnny Osbourne released '13 dead and nothing said' on Simba records'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNU_GahMkbg
these one are wicked as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFTuncoREk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9D-0lGsSNg
'It's that time of year to mark the anniversary of the New Cross Fire in 1981. As described in Deptford Fun City: "On Sunday 18th January 1981, 13 young black people, all between the ages of 15 and 20 years old, were killed in a fire at a birthday party at 439 New Cross Road. The police reported initially that the fire was caused by a firebomb, and many believed that it was a racist attack. On the following Sunday a mass meeting was held at The Moonshot Club, attended by over 1000 people. From that meeting there was a demonstration to the scene of the fire, which blocked New Cross Road for several hours.
The New Cross Massacre Action Committee organised weekly mass meetings in New Cross. It also called the Black People's Day of Action on Monday 2nd March 1981, the biggest mobilisation of black people ever seen in Britain. 20,000 marched over a period of eight hours from Fordham Park to Hyde Park with slogans including: 'Thirteen Dead and Nothing Said', 'No Police Cover-Up', 'Blood Ah Go Run If Justice No Come'.
Ever since the Fire, the police have leaked stories about breakthroughs, but have never charged anybody. Perhaps it will turn out not to have been a racist attack, but this was not the only issue at the time. The slogan of 'Thirteen Dead and Nothing Said' was a response to the official indifference to the deaths".
The tragedy was commemorated in a number of reggae songs and poems at the time. Sir Collins, whose son Steven died in the fire, recorded an album 'New Cross Fire' (sleeve pictured). Benjamin Zephaniah recorded '13 dead' and Linton Kwesi Johnson, New Craas Massahkah. Johnny Osbourne released '13 dead and nothing said' on Simba records'
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Rufus
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
i guess the forementioned Steven Collins is the same person as Steve Collins (singer on 6 tracks). the label also mentions 'Sir Collins pays tribute', so it explains why this 'concept' album has a very special vibe ...
LP visual here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tapirs/scmwlp.htm
... so Steven Collins original tunes may have been recorded around '72 (with dub echoes?)
on this adress (http://dancecrasher.podomatic.com/entry ... 8_42-07_00 ... podcast deleted
), there is a post of Gary Collins (412 days ago)
'get ready for a complete collins downbeat collection from the man himself special edition with a couple of unreleased bonus tracks all digitaly mastered with the history around the tune for more info on how to get a copy very soon email sircollinsmusic@hotmail.co.uk bless sir collins and family'
LP visual here:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tapirs/scmwlp.htm
... so Steven Collins original tunes may have been recorded around '72 (with dub echoes?)
on this adress (http://dancecrasher.podomatic.com/entry ... 8_42-07_00 ... podcast deleted
'get ready for a complete collins downbeat collection from the man himself special edition with a couple of unreleased bonus tracks all digitaly mastered with the history around the tune for more info on how to get a copy very soon email sircollinsmusic@hotmail.co.uk bless sir collins and family'
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Mark
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
[cover=7610,5065] has been reissued now.
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jordandance
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
Did they reproduce the hand signed cover from Collins?
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han
Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
Do you know that ? or do you wish ? because I don't see it anywere for sale..Mark wrote: has been reissued now.
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hans
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Re: New Cross Fire - Page One [1981]
Sir Collings Peace And Love Music One is available on LP/CD
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4382/largei.jpg
New Cross Fire Page One I can't find.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4382/largei.jpg
New Cross Fire Page One I can't find.
Hans