Four Aces, Dalston

patrickp
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Four Aces, Dalston

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Sorry for so many questions - but -

I recently started working in Hackney, and I got talking to this bloke who was a regular there, and said that this club was really important in the 70s and 80s. He said he remembered Joe Strummer having to be carried out by his mates having pulled a massive whitey :) There isn't a huge amount of info on the net. Did anybody here go to it? If so what was it like, who played regularly there?

Thanks,
PP
stepping razor
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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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I only went near the end before in closed down so I`m sure you will get a better idea from other people. It was a small venue by then.
All the main sounds from the 70`s & 80`s played there Fatman, Sir Coxsone, Shaka and many many others.

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ital kemar
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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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was that the club in the cellar? later the 91 club?. we used to go to one in dalston, i think jah youth sound from the hackney had a regular nite there. my mate used to work in a pub called the castle on kingsland high road in dalston, we used to meet up and go from there. two rooms in there, and a toilet door that shook like someone was banging it the bass was so heavy. speaking of record shops.... there used to be a good one down a sidesteet from the castle, towards the market i think.

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donstrumental
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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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I played their a few times in the late 80's,started to get a bit dark and scary as these were times when scents of other substances than herb started to stink out the dances.

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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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hi again, think i got the place mixed up. four aces was down near the junction. used to be a pub with a little 'casino' round back. yeah i remember it got a bit dodgy round there. every few weeks someone flashed bucky.
pity that.

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stepping razor
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**Four Aces, Phebes and London`s Forgotten Reggae Venues
Tim Burrows, July 8th , 2009**

An excerpt of *`From CBGB To The Roundhouse Music Venues Through The Years`*
By Tim Burrows

The Four Aces in Hackney opened in 1966 on the site of an old Victorian theatre built to house Robert Fossett’s Circus in 1886 on Dalston Lane. By the 1970s the club had become a centre for West Indians in cultural exile, attracting people from around the UK. In manager Newton Dunbar’s view it was successful because it offered a ‘ready-made opiate to alleviate the stresses of what was happening in the world.’

Black youths all over London began to learn about the Four Aces, including south Londoner Dennis Bovell, bass player in London-based reggae band Matumbi. Bovell has since produced such artists as The Slits, Bananarama, Fela Kuti and Linton Kwesi Johnson, but in the early 1970s he was just starting out. "Three or four of us went there in about ’71 or ’72 with our soundsystem, Sufferers Hi Fi,’ he recalls. ‘A friend had just passed his driving test and acquired his first car, so it was quite easy to get there from Wandsworth."

Sufferers were booked to play against Count Shelley, the undoubted king of sound-systems around Hackney and Stoke Newington at the time. Bovell’s young upstarts from south of the river must have been thought of as lowly challengers in comparison, so to ensure they put up a good fight, they brought with them some heavy duty equipment. "We had this column of speakers so huge that they didn’t fit through the front door," says Bovell. "My mate Errol, who was also an electrician, went out to his van and got this huge industrial screwdriver and in no time at all had the doors to the club off. It was as though we were installing a wardrobe. Newton was standing there saying, 'You better put that thing back on.' It meant of course that the door had to come off again afterwards to get the thing out of there."

*READ MORE:* http://www.thequietus.com/articles/0208 ... im-burrows

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stepping razor
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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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Four Aces Night Club History and old footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Jzmon4kyI

It got knocked down a few years ago.

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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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great link razor

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eve

Re: Four Aces, Dalston

Post by eve »

can you help me find a/ the best sax player. Rudy (darby)hynes - was with Undivided Matumbi with Jah Bunny, backing group with anyone that came out of Jamaica ie. Roy äShirley list is too long. We were 2gether 4 8 yrs. Lost contact and apart from Alpha boys school site (which doesn`t work) can`t send a msg. Live abroad. '''''''''So won `t be turnin g up at any doors. $ Aces = John beats Eve
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Re: Four Aces, Dalston

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yeah,
I was there in the 70`s. Lived in Hackney Stamford Hill at the time. Best beats out of Jamaica at the time and the best sound systems - the place was packed and roots roots regaee. The ownner was a really nice guy named John. But more important was thatt all the music scene used to meet there - even tho the place was soo small. I will never 4get it. . Good time
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