The Affect Albums Had On Jamaica & Around The World

[mr mountain]

Did Albums Like "Pick A Dub" & "King Tubbys Meets Rockers Uptown" Have The Same Affect In Jamaica As They Did World Wide?
I see Those Albums As Being Huge Classic Records, And Wonder If Jamaica Has Forgotten The Importance Of Those Recordings?
I Know In Parts Of America Europe And Asia Embrace Those Records And Understand How Important They Are.

[selecta bing]

Music would not be the same today without Jamaican musicians, engineers and producers who pioneered THE MIX,THE VERSION,TOASTING,DUB,OUTDOOR RAVE PARTIES etc etc the list goes on and on.....
and yes I feel Jamaicans today have forgotten the importance of musicianship !
BUT Jamaican style still heavily influences styles around the world.

[davek]

LPs in general were more of a European and North American concern, while in JA reggae is really a music enjoyed more on 45s. This is mainly a matter of economics....LPs cost too much to buy.

I don't think it's a case of Jamaica forgetting the importance of the two releases you mention as much as never attaching that much importance to them in the first place. How many copies of Pick-A-Dub were actually pressed in Jamaica, and not exported? Pablo used to distribute records out of his shop on Orange Street, so I doubt that many people in Jamaica are very familiar with "Rockers Uptown". It's more about not being exposed to them than it is under-appreciating them.

[jordandance]

From my experience , most recognize the riddim of Rockers Uptown....and 99 percent of them don't know/care who Keith Hudson is. Maybe in the Uk things will differ.

[davek]

From my experience , most recognize the riddim of Rockers Uptown....and 99 percent of them don't know/care who Keith Hudson is. Maybe in the Uk things will differ.

Yes, but probably recognizable from either the original Cassava Piece, or "Baby I Love You So". Few are likely associating to the Pablo LP. Pablo was definitely known and appreciated more outside of JA than inside.

Big Youth's S-90 Skank and Alton Ellis' Big Bad Boy can still cause a stir with the right crowd, although it's unlikely most people associate the tunes with Hudson.

[dan i]

The albums were important for people (and markets) that didn't hear the current 45s (or the real deal at the time). Davek is pretty much spot on. Pablo's music will have been appreciloved as it came out on 45 - 'East Of The River Nile', 'Iggy Iggy', 'Java' etc.

Albums were really an export deal.

Same thing for Island and Virgin albums in the 70s - their 'classic' LPs were nothing of the sort to Jamaicans who would have known many of the songs from their 45 release. Many of these were essentially 'greatest hits' collections for Europe and USA.

[dan i]

Oh, and it is effect btw.

Affect is a verb, effect is a noun.

Sorry to be a total pedant.

[mr mountain]

jordandance wrote :....and 99 percent of them don't know/care who Keith Hudson is.
wow!
That Is Unbelievable.
I don't Understand How This Could Be?
Hudson Is a VERY important figure in reggae
(i thought)...

[davek]

*That Is Unbelievable*

Most people don't obsesss over details of what they enjoy. Go to any dance club, and most people on the dance floor can't tell you who the producer of the track they are hearing is, and maybe not even the singer. Not just in Jamaica, anywhere in the world.

Keith Hudson was definitely influential. His early work with DJs, dub, and the fact that was always open to trying new things in the studio has made him respected by those who follow the history of the music in detail.
But if you don't follow the history of the music in detail, why should you even know about him?

The Velvet Underground, for example, were a very influential pop group, but hardly a household name like The Beatles or The Rolling Stones. Think of Hudson as the Velvet Underground of JA.

You just happen to hanging around with a bunch of details-obsessed people on this board. But you should never mistake us as being "normal" or "typical". If we were, we would be too busy twittering :^)

[mr mountain]

you do have a good point...
with the velvet underground thing.
never thought of it that way before.
yeah,and i dont twitter its for the birds.
haha