error on mighty's s1 roots vol 3 review?

[Guest]

http://www.roots-archives.com/rotm/sept ... oots_vol3/
you mentioned the winston flames "ina armagideon" as a haunting dub of the well known classic.
the music is based on bababa boom (bass).
I guess the well known classic you were talking about is "armagiddeon" by willie williams but it has nothing to do with the winston flames track!
the original version of this track is jackie mittoo "mash down babylon"/"armagideon rock".
I don't have this soul jazz st1 roots vol 3... so maybe they miscredited the song...

[Lion]

Oras listen to this:http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=9780
Ba ba boom rydim.

Lion

[Guest]

so you're saying that the error was from mightyz?

[MightyZ]

Apologies for the confusion here guys - I perhaps have used my words in a misleading fashion - i did not mean to suggest it was a direct dub version of the exact riddim, but it is the same basic tune.

MightyZ

[Lion]

MightyZ

You say it clear.

Lion

[MightyZ]

Thanks Lion

MightyZ

[Guest]

Apologies for the confusion here guys - I perhaps have used my words in a misleading fashion - i did not mean to suggest it was a direct dub version of the exact riddim, but it is the same basic tune.

MightyZ

am I wrong or you mean "ina armaggideon" and "armagideon time" are the same basic tune? they are not even similar! come on! you're a musician aren't you?
on "ina armagideon", the bass plays baba boom, there aren't no horns, and keyboards are much more present and play different lines!
the only thing these tracks have in common is the word armagideon in the title!
but don't take it personnally, I'm just to make things clear!

[MightyZ]

Ok - I'll try to clear this up - my reference tune in my head when I mentioned a 'classic riddim' was actually 'You too greedy' by Lone Ranger - which may not be the same recording as 'ina armiggideon', but is certainly a version of the same tune. I don't actually have a copy of 'armigideon time' to hand to check, but from memory would have said that it is the same riddim as 'you too greedy' (I'm sure you will correct me if I am wrong here!).

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that you are suggesting that the same tune played in a different style is effectively a different tune ('they are not even similar') - I would have to disagree - as a musician, i am well aware that the same tune can be played in many different styles - but it is the same tune. E.G. Perfidia - The Ventures (late 20's jazz) and Perfidia - Phyllis Dillon (late 60's rocksteady).

MightyZ

[Rob Strictly-Rockers]

The bass line should decide it. If one is Baba Boom and the other isn't then in reggae terms they are surely not the same tune. If it is the same bass line but played in a different style then I would regard them as different versions on the same rhythm.

If I can find both tunes I'll check later.

Regards

Rob

[Rob Strictly-Rockers]

Just checked and You Too Greedy and Armagideon Time are both cut on the Real Rock rhythm so if Ina Armagideon is cut on the Baba Boom rhythm they are not the same tune. However, to be fair to Mighty Z, Baba Boom and Real Rock have some similar characteristics in the bass line even though they are not the same.

Cheers

Rob