Help with Jamaican lingo used in reggae songs...

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Help with Jamaican lingo used in reggae songs...

Post by Funky Punk »

This is probably dead obvious but could someone please explain for a non-Jamaican, who or what Bag-o-Wire (Bagga Wire?) is? I've heard the term in loads of songs but I've never thought to find out what it means. :)

Also, what exactly is a 'crocus bag'? A shopping bag? A cloth sack? A plastic carrier bag?
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Post by Zionist »

See this thread on bag-o-wire - betrayer of Marcus Garvey

http://www.roots-archives.com/forum/rea ... 93,quote=1

Crocus bag is a burlap sack, often used to transport, um, natural products
Funky Punk

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Post by Funky Punk »

Zionist wrote:See this thread on bag-o-wire - betrayer of Marcus Garvey

http://www.roots-archives.com/forum/rea ... 93,quote=1

Crocus bag is a burlap sack, often used to transport, um, natural products
Thanks very much.

Heh, if crocus bags are often used to shift the weed around, it lends another (rather amusing) interpretation to Prince Far I's "Empty crocus bag, can't stand up!" line in 'Rain A Fall'... :D
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Post by bwoyrough »

bag-o-wire is a betrayer as im sure that link must point out.
There was an excellent cut of that tune i think by dillinger. Lyrics something like:

Dem mek him burn bag-a-wire, them put him inna fire,
hotta hotta fire bag-a-wire burn in fire.
Dem make him burn bagawire

Anyone one the title of the tune and if it was on any dillinger albums or 12"s? it had some wicked thunder+clashes effects in it.
I think it was a toast over a dub version of Johnny Clarkes - Never love poor marcus.

Would love to get a 12" version of that tune.
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Post by mr mountain »

burn bagawire i believe you can get it as a7" reissue.
"Empty crocus bag, can't stand up!" "Give I Some Food"
Love it.
Klaus

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Post by Klaus »

Horsemouth - Herb Vendor

"..steppin down the alley, with a crocus bag of collie, fi go check sister dolly, to test dis yah collie"

(from memory, i know thats not exactly right)
Funky Punk

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Post by Funky Punk »

So, what does 'It's sipple out there' (from Max Romeo's 'War Inna Babylon') actually mean?

I used to think he was singing 'it's simple out there' - but that doesn't make sense...
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Post by Ruffa »

they discussed the word Sipple on a john peel show once when playing the song. I forget what they said it meant but i always took it to mean Ruff/Tuff/Hard etc. but unsure if this is correct.
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From what I was told it meant something in the order of 'slippery'.
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Ron wrote:From what I was told it meant something in the order of 'slippery'.
That doesn't really make much sense either... :)
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